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Union seniority shafting!!

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mojothefishmo
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Union seniority shafting!!

Post by mojothefishmo »

Right this may sound like sour grapes due to the position in the repick
but there are a number of full time staff with 10 yr plus seniority ,who although wouldnt get a grt pick they should be having a pick from the
cover duties that are available still ,instead because they do not drive they are being told they can not pick into any cover duty
there for allowing staff lower down the list who do drive to pick before them and all the non drivers are left with are leave reserve even tho they all have
seniority to pick into covers which all of them want to do

Now if its going to be picked on seniority you surely just cant bypass non drivers and say tough ,just makes it a joke of a pick and the drivers with less seniority are laughing

And the rest of us are pissed off

We are going to see the planner for what good it will do but any advice people ,cause if we do get shafted then i and the rest will be done with the union
Theres only so much shafting you can take before it starts to hurt !!!


Pissed off
mojothefishmo
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Lots of views no comments :(
not me
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is this for park & loop?
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Post by fishtank »

The following principles should be applied to your re-pick:

1. Staff will need to be trained on the equipment they will be using
2. Duties should be divided between driving and non-driving duties
3. People covered by DDA need to be offered suitable duties as a priority in the process re-pick
4. Driving duties will be restricted to existing and volunteer new drivers and non-driving duties will be restricted to non-drivers
5. A driver is needed for every shared van pair. Only one non-driver can pick into a shared van duty pair
6. Shared van partners without driving licences should be restricted to 50% or less of the total number of shared van partners. The exact ratio will be determined by you, but the balance you must strike is between creating a duty set:
a. With enough options to match your peoples’ skills
b. With enough flexibility to give you adequate cover in cases of people failure and unplanned absence
In the example duty detail display this is - 13 Shared vans, 6 non drivers (App 2)
7. The non-driving duties can be allocated to any of the shared vans, up to the agreed ratio
8. The cover and the leave reserve duties for the shared vans must be drivers to ensure that the van can be taken out each day

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good times, bad times you know I've had my share
mojothefishmo
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yes it is park and loop ,and judging by thelist our seniority counts for sod all cause we cant drive !!
Thehair
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Can't drive or won't drive?
mojothefishmo
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mojothefishmo wrote:yes it is park and loop ,and judging by thelist our seniority counts for sod all cause we cant drive !!
Cant mate i would drive if i could
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Cant mate i would drive if i could.

Don`t know if it applies now but years ago I couldn`t drive (except for motorbike). In an office re-sign I grabbed the last rural going.
A few weeks later PO Driving Instuctor got me my licence with 2 weeks of training instead of normal duty. No cost to me at all.
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Brains wrote:Cant mate i would drive if i could.

Don`t know if it applies now but years ago I couldn`t drive (except for motorbike). In an office re-sign I grabbed the last rural going.
A few weeks later PO Driving Instuctor got me my licence with 2 weeks of training instead of normal duty. No cost to me at all.

they're not gonna do it if they have enough drivers in the office
the seniority vs driving ability is the same in every office under P&L from what ive seen
mojothefishmo
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Yes your right thats the way it seems ,just wait for the s**t too hit the fan when they offer money to dump seniority ,and as sad as this sounds and i never thought id say it ,THIS TIME ILL VOTE FOR TAKING THE MONEY ,i feel the last 11 yrs have been a total waste of time

Completely f@@ked off
stodgy88
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money for seniority .where,s that idea originate from exactly.
mojothefishmo
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stodgy88 wrote:money for seniority .where,s that idea originate from exactly.
May not be any money but thats what they want and the union rep told me today its coming at some point so wether we get payed off or nor well all be leave reserves one day !!