what's the difference between an accident and incident

[postman8]

ive had a stage warning for a guy that hurt himself while on delivery was reported as accident on duty which normally gets discounted but manager is calling it a inncident which sounds like postman is to blame anybody know the differance

[fishtank]

Nothing...he can call it a banana if he wants...it makes no difference...it still has to be recorded the same way and should still normally be discounted in the attendance procedure.
Has the "incident" been fully investigated and has the word blameworthy been used?

[wolfie citizen smith]

Right up my street this.........An Accident means that someone or thing was to blame which suggests that any legal proceedings will be against that someone (perticular person(s)) or somebody (bussiness(es)) whom was responsable for the thing. However an Incident suggests reporting something by someone whom has no power to suggest otherwise whether an accident is indeed an acident.
hope this helps

[graffi]

An accident is a specific, identifiable, unexpected, unusual and unintended external action which occurs in a particular time and place, without apparent or deliberate cause but with marked effects. ...
 
Incident
An event or occurrence; A relatively minor event that is incidental to, or related to others; An event that may cause or causes an interruption or a crisis; Arising as the result of an event, 

[wolfie citizen smith]

An accident is a specific, identifiable, unexpected, unusual and unintended external action which occurs in a particular time and place, without apparent or deliberate cause but with marked effects. ...
 
Incident
An event or occurrence; A relatively minor event that is incidental to, or related to others; An event that may cause or causes an interruption or a crisis; Arising as the result of an event, 

bit of a mincie way of putting things "graf"

[graffi]

Lol ... Dictionary they asked for definition but I like your response I have copied it for my reference ty

[brothermagrew]

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[cantbelieveit's...]

I think the simple way to put this is

Accident - some gets hurt/injured.

Incident - An incident which happens but no injury or hurt is the outcome.

[fishtank]

Incidents can also end in injury.

[wolfie citizen smith]

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... nt#p121538

I'm sure thats what i said and ment in my own kind of way "magrew"

[fishtank]

An accident is supposed to include an unsafe act...an incident isn't... but as i said earlier there is not the slightest bit of difference when it comes to the attendance procedure which is the issue the OP is having.
An injury at work is an injury at work and if you call it an accident or an incident it doesn't matter.
BOTH should NORMALLY be discounted in the attendance procedure.

[wolfie citizen smith]

An accident is supposed to include an unsafe act...an incident isn't... but as i said earlier there is not the slightest bit of difference when it comes to the attendance procedure which is the issue the OP is having.
An injury at work is an injury at work and if you call it an accident or an incident it doesn't matter.
BOTH should NORMALLY be discounted in the attendance procedure.

I totally agree "tank" however RM management now class all accidents/incidents as incidents as they do not have the power to determine whether the accident was indeed an accident and unfortunately has to be determined by the "numbnuts" at the AMC in Wolverhampton and who made them the only ones who is allowed to have an opinion within RM

[fishtank]

Have you had an "incident at work" where no-one was to blame?
Well don't bother calling simpson/millar...they ain't feckin interested...No blame-No claim.
Why do you think Royal Mail want everything classed as an "incident" Wolfie?

[clashcityrocker]

An injury at work is an injury at work and if you call it an accident or an incident it doesn't matter.
BOTH should NORMALLY be discounted in the attendance procedure.

We had a case where a postie put his fingers through a letter box and a dog bit his fingers.
Accident or incident?
Big dog warning card on the frame so no excuses.
The DSM wanted him conducted for wilful delay of mail because obviously he couldn't complete his delivery.

[fishtank]

An injury at work is an injury at work and if you call it an accident or an incident it doesn't matter.
BOTH should NORMALLY be discounted in the attendance procedure.

We had a case where a postie put his fingers through a letter box and a dog bit his fingers.
Accident or incident?
Big dog warning card on the frame so no excuses.
The DSM wanted him conducted for wilful delay of mail because obviously he couldn't complete his delivery.

It's an accident as an unsafe act occurred.
The terms accident or incident do not indicate or apportion blame.
That's a whole different ballgame....blameless or blameworthy.