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have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
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jayharding
- Posts: 23
- Joined: 22 Aug 2010, 11:57
- Gender: Male
have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
i got given my 6month review yesterday. ive been their 5 month and 1 week.
i failed my review on 2 grounds. firstly and mainly because i had 2week off on the sick due to ripping a muscle in my back while on duty, i did not want to take 2week off. told my DOM i did not want any sick time but work forced me to take two week off on the sick. now they tell me 2week is over the acceptable time limit. even though it was not my choice.
secondly.. failure to finish delivering packets. in my office their is packets left over EVERY DAY very rarely do all the packets get delivered and they just build up. the DOM is fine and encourages this as long as all tracked and specials have been delivered.
i had very limited training on packets (approx 6 hours training) and after 2 counselling sessions about the packet duty i have explained both times i am not confident in doing packets due to lack of knowlage of the area and dont know were half the addresses are but my manager consistently put me on them despite me asking not to.
the last month has felt like my DOM has deliberitley made my job hard. and i've stuck in as ive allways wanted a job on the post, now as fast as it was given to me the manager i was stuck with has stamped out my career.im gutted to say the least.
after failing my review he then sacked me (said not keeping me on) he was alone during this interview.. no option for a union member to be present and i didn't think to ask as i had no idea this was coming. i refused to sign the review sheet and the secrecy sheet. but he said "you will sign it now- or i will get RM security and police involved and theyll come to your house and force you to sign it" very very abruptly.
i want to be a post man and now hes ripped mt career away. the last thing he said is. dont even try appeal or go to solicitor or citizens advice as you are not allowed to appeal againt my decision. he wouldnt allow me to take a copy of my review. said it was unallowed even though i have a copy of my 3month review.
please help....what can i do?
i failed my review on 2 grounds. firstly and mainly because i had 2week off on the sick due to ripping a muscle in my back while on duty, i did not want to take 2week off. told my DOM i did not want any sick time but work forced me to take two week off on the sick. now they tell me 2week is over the acceptable time limit. even though it was not my choice.
secondly.. failure to finish delivering packets. in my office their is packets left over EVERY DAY very rarely do all the packets get delivered and they just build up. the DOM is fine and encourages this as long as all tracked and specials have been delivered.
i had very limited training on packets (approx 6 hours training) and after 2 counselling sessions about the packet duty i have explained both times i am not confident in doing packets due to lack of knowlage of the area and dont know were half the addresses are but my manager consistently put me on them despite me asking not to.
the last month has felt like my DOM has deliberitley made my job hard. and i've stuck in as ive allways wanted a job on the post, now as fast as it was given to me the manager i was stuck with has stamped out my career.im gutted to say the least.
after failing my review he then sacked me (said not keeping me on) he was alone during this interview.. no option for a union member to be present and i didn't think to ask as i had no idea this was coming. i refused to sign the review sheet and the secrecy sheet. but he said "you will sign it now- or i will get RM security and police involved and theyll come to your house and force you to sign it" very very abruptly.
i want to be a post man and now hes ripped mt career away. the last thing he said is. dont even try appeal or go to solicitor or citizens advice as you are not allowed to appeal againt my decision. he wouldnt allow me to take a copy of my review. said it was unallowed even though i have a copy of my 3month review.
please help....what can i do?
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NWpostie
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- Gender: Male
- Location: Sector 001 Borg Collective, 6 o f 9
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
He is bullying you, taking advantage of your inexperience, go to a Rep STRAIGHT AWAY, this is wrong and you can appeal, go to tribunal, they can't take that away from you, even a half blind tribunal would think this stinks, don't take any sh1t from this scumbag, I hate bullies
Do it asap, if necessary Area rep, do it quickly the longer you leave it the harder it will be.
Do it asap, if necessary Area rep, do it quickly the longer you leave it the harder it will be.
Six of Nine loves Seven of Nine, together in Electric Dreams.
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jayharding
- Posts: 23
- Joined: 22 Aug 2010, 11:57
- Gender: Male
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
thanks mate. was worried i was alone thinking that. honestly feels like i was bein bullied. i told other members of the office and they agreed that it came across like he was purpously trying to make my job as hard as he could.
i don't understand how a man can sack me for not doing my job correctly when he doesnt do his correctly.
i mean the man scans specials as delivered to save his own bonus and to stop the office failing even if their still sat in a york!! and he has cheek to tell me im not working well haha... i intend to go union first thing tommorow.
thanks mate. please anyone else can u help?
i don't understand how a man can sack me for not doing my job correctly when he doesnt do his correctly.
i mean the man scans specials as delivered to save his own bonus and to stop the office failing even if their still sat in a york!! and he has cheek to tell me im not working well haha... i intend to go union first thing tommorow.
thanks mate. please anyone else can u help?
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jayharding
- Posts: 23
- Joined: 22 Aug 2010, 11:57
- Gender: Male
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
i will mate, thank you
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coxie
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 1336
- Joined: 09 Oct 2009, 14:57
- Gender: Male
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
Managers will lie and try to intimidate, seek advice, ring your area union rep.
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NWpostie
- Posts: 3618
- Joined: 04 Aug 2007, 17:32
- Gender: Male
- Location: Sector 001 Borg Collective, 6 o f 9
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
Re: my boldjayharding wrote:thanks mate. was worried i was alone thinking that. honestly feels like i was being bullied. i told other members of the office and they agreed that it came across like he was purposely trying to make my job as hard as he could.
i don't understand how a man can sack me for not doing my job correctly when he doesn't do his correctly.
I mean the man scans specials as delivered to save his own bonus and to stop the office failing even if their still sat in a york!! and he has cheek to tell me im not working well haha... i intend to go union first thing tomorrow.
thanks mate. please anyone else can u help?
If you can prove this , tell the Union, the IB will be more interested in him than you, if he is out of the picture, the focus will be off you.
Six of Nine loves Seven of Nine, together in Electric Dreams.
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maisymoo04
- Posts: 2226
- Joined: 07 Apr 2010, 17:11
- Gender: Male
- Location: You dont want to no
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
jay take note from nw postie ,dont worry about it he cant sack ye,c your rep.sayin that please tell me you our in the union 
"Some day I will have the bottle to take the money"
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jayharding
- Posts: 23
- Joined: 22 Aug 2010, 11:57
- Gender: Male
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
yes, im in the union haha, im gona hit the union tommorow and spend day gathering advice. i wont rest on this
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chelseachris
- Posts: 164
- Joined: 26 Mar 2010, 14:28
- Gender: Male
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
Go for it mate these bastards think they are above every onejayharding wrote:yes, im in the union haha, im gona hit the union tommorow and spend day gathering advice. i wont rest on this
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not me
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- Gender: Female
- Location: Uranus
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
see the CAB
however unless you are discriminated against,you can be sacked for most reasons within your 1st 12 months in any job.
however unless you are discriminated against,you can be sacked for most reasons within your 1st 12 months in any job.
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omega753
- Posts: 12
- Joined: 13 Mar 2010, 12:53
- Gender: Male
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
Dont give up bullying scumbags like him need taking on and removing good luck
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MinisterofCucumber
- Posts: 806
- Joined: 15 Dec 2009, 22:18
- Gender: Male
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
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Good luck.
Good luck.
"You wanna f**k with me? Okay. You wanna play rough? Okay. Say hello to my little friend!" - Tony Montana
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Sippin40oz
- Posts: 170
- Joined: 24 Oct 2010, 18:29
- Gender: Female
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
Your DOM sounds like a right piece of work! To be honest though these types of cases are normally quite hard work to prove and might not be worth the effort in the end. Definitely go see the union guy and CAB to see what they have to say. Good luck with your case hope things work out ok for you.
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maisymoo04
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- Joined: 07 Apr 2010, 17:11
- Gender: Male
- Location: You dont want to no
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
the dim cant sack ye can he,thought it was the som who does the sackin. 
"Some day I will have the bottle to take the money"
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PostieWithTheMostie!
- Posts: 322
- Joined: 03 Dec 2009, 18:46
- Gender: Male
Re: have i been sacked unfairly? how do i appeal?
5 months and a week, your still 3 weeks shy of your 6 months, plus an Accident on Delivery shouldn't be classed as an absence.. See your Local Rep ASAP m8.