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EP rate

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joeboy
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EP rate

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just been informed by my delivery manager, that we are performing at an EP rate of 117, can anyone beat this!!!!
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I think our office is usually about 102.75(that's just a guess though) and 220 on a Saturday! :dance
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If I knew what it was,I would give you an answer.
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An unusually high EP often means that guys are starting early,skipping their meal relief and using private cars on delivery...think about it. :crazy:
It basically means that an office can get by on less hours than it genuinely needs because guys are working for free.
It will bite you on the ass when you get your revision. :nervous
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FT - is there any chance you could come down and explain this to the f/t staff in my DO?

They think
It is their God-given right to start before their time.......
It is their God-given right to finish early.......
It is their God-given right to have a duty assessed at 4hr .... so they can do it in 3...... and claim 1hr docket.......
And it is the union's job to protect this.
Our EP is 105.
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joeboy
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your spot on, guys in my office are in at 4.20am for a 6am start, the first van does'nt get in till 5am!!! cars being used, no meal relief taken, when will they ever learn!!!
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Post by BELIAL »

jaylime wrote:If I knew what it was,I would give you an answer.
Eejeet Postman Rate, it's an American developed performance measure. Didn't know RM had formally adopted it , nearly pointless anyhow :sad:
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Is EP another name for BSI?
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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watdeadlyone
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our EP last week was 145
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I'm desperate,what is EP? :d'oh!
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Robocop
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Post by Robocop »

Effective performance. I haven't a clue how it's measured though I'd guess it's weighted to make us seem like we're not working fast enough.
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Post by Budfrog »

POSTMAN wrote:Is EP another name for BSI?
EP is a 'Royal Mail' performance measure standing for Effective Performance.
BSI (known as the 0-100 rating scale) is the British Standard Institute measure for work rate and is the one used in Royal Mail.

Assuming a worker worked at 75BSI and took his RA (Relaxation Allowance typically around 12-15%) and any Contingency Allowance for the task he would produce an EP of 75.

75BSI in outside industry is known as 'dayrate' which is the term used for a qualified worker who is well motivated.
100BSI is normally only achieved by a qualified worker who is on some form of incentive, financial or non-financial. (Piecework, Bonus, Job and Finish).

What is curious is that most mail centre staff are targetted with 85BSI for mech tasks and 75BSI for manual. Deliveries however have adopted a target of 100BSI which indicates that they are expected to work harder than their mail centre colleagues. Most driving jobs such as collections are difficult to measure due to the outside factors such as traffic that come into play.

The EP for a unit is a combined performance measure of all the workload produced (traffic x planning values) divided by the staff hours used. Most planning values have been established using time study by trained Industrial Engineers from within the business or contractors from outside. Unless a statistically sound number of time studies are taken (typically to achieve accuracy of +/- 5% with 95% confidence) then inaccurate PVs will produce workload that is not representative of the tasks undertaken and inaccurate staffing levels after revision activity has taken place. Model week, peak day, average day traffic calculations also need to be taken into account when aligning staff to workload.

One way of ratifying PVs for a unit is to undertake a Rated Activity Sampling exercise where snapshots of operators and their observed workrates are taken by trained Industrial Engineers. Sufficient observations need to be taken to achieve the required accuracy level and when complete the average observed rating should mirror the EP for the unit. If it does not, then there is something wrong with either the traffic measurement, staff hours recorded or the planning values themselves.
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Post by baleout »

Thanks for the info "Budfrog" but I must admit I had to have another vino on reaching paragragh 3.

To be honest I only really concentrate on RM's PPM (Piss Poor Management) figures. RM has to be congratulated on their current targets because at the time of posting this reply the figure was running at close to 99.9 %
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Ours is 81.3 %. :nervous

Guess we are all lazy mothers then :left:
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Thanks for the replies.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.