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How royal mail rips you off with Door to Doors

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How royal mail rips you off with Door to Doors

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Checking out the prices for Door to Doors in my area using this website:

http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/cont ... d=52400700" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've worked out that Royal Mail charges around £20 for delivering 1 set of door to doors for my walk. (under 20grams, <25k items)
I usually get 5 lots of Doors to Doors per week. So Royal Mail charge £100 for all 5. I get £15 for delivering all 5 of them.
So Royal Mail get £85 profit from sorting out the contracts. That is just organising them, and distributing them to local offices, not printing or delivering them to doors.
So I get only 15% for doing what is arguably the hardest part of the work, and Royal Mail gets the rest.

No wonder they were so keen on pushing through these door to door changes. They must be laughing all the way to the bank!

Oh and they get even more money if the door to doors are above 20 grams, and we get nothing extra.
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Post by mandelsons_toenail »

they MUST be making a fortune

:shock:

mails down though 15% in the past 18 months :left:

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No one gets paid any money extra for delivering them, you don't get 15quid for delivering them, they are now part of work load
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I'm no fan of the D2D "arrangements"...but lets be realistic...you don't get paid a fiver to deliver a special either. :hmmmm
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Post by internetguy »

think yourself lucky you get 15 quid, i get 9 pounds for 570 calls. complete rip off. burn the f***ing lot i say......
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i was told about two years ago that our d.o. could survive off the budget of d2d alone, no mail or anything. And that was when there were but three!
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Redyam wrote:Checking out the prices for Door to Doors in my area using this website:

http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/cont ... d=52400700" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've worked out that Royal Mail charges around £20 for delivering 1 set of door to doors for my walk. (under 20grams, <25k items)
I usually get 5 lots of Doors to Doors per week. So Royal Mail charge £100 for all 5. I get £15 for delivering all 5 of them.
So Royal Mail get £85 profit from sorting out the contracts.
Whilst I see where you are coming from and to be honest I sympathise and agree we have to be honest with ourselves. Ok if we were the only ones involved in D2Ds and included the Delivery Supplement as part of the cost then RM would be making a massive profit on each and every one.

However there are hidden costs.

Administration of contracts.
Selling/Agreeing the contracts
Transportation from the customer (or collection point) to bundling centre
Costs of the Bundling Centre - Including wages
Transportation to the MC/DO.
Return of undelivered or excess items to customer.

.......... and all of this is based on a contract being perfectly delivered to spec - if not the costs increase more.
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Post by krussel »

I can see the point but :

They are part of the daily workload the same as letters and packets etc and we dont moan about the company making a profit on those :hmmmm
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ronpetetrevchris wrote:i was told about two years ago that our d.o. could survive off the budget of d2d alone, no mail or anything. And that was when there were but three!
We're told they need 5/week to break even on D2D. :cuppa
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krussel wrote:I can see the point but :

They are part of the daily workload the same as letters and packets etc and we dont moan about the company making a profit on those :hmmmm
They were only supposed to be part of the workload after revision, so if you go over now you should book I think 15 mins a day for Prep if your walk hasn't had the 15% reduction
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When we were getting paid the grand total of 1.6p for them I was talking to one business owner who had enquired to RM about delivering dr2drs for him and he was quoted 12p each!
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wacko74 wrote:When we were getting paid the grand total of 1.6p for them I was talking to one business owner who had enquired to RM about delivering dr2drs for him and he was quoted 12p each!
Which funnily enough is 1.6/12 = 13.3 %, very close the the figure of 15% in the first post.
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i do like getting my £20 for no door to doors, as seems to happen fairly regularly
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midvillain wrote:i do like getting my £20 for no door to doors, as seems to happen fairly regularly

Wish it was like that at my office :Very Happy

We have been getting 4 a week for some time now :sad:
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Post by stokes11eg »

:sad: About 10 years ago, my son worked in a newsagents. The shop was given a generous amount for inserting the same fliers in to the newspapers that we delivered. Depending on the paper, it could be 4pence per item, rising to 7 pence, and that was then. Yes we are being ripped off!