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Specials and Sign Fors - how many ?

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Specials and Sign Fors - how many ?

Post by RedBagMan »

I'm sure this sort of thread has happened before ... but me (and my lino !) thought 14 "sign fors" and 2 "specials" (and 1 "sign for" on lapse) was fairly impressive fora "light Tuesday" ...

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I had 22 specials once on a Saturday, but I think the most I have ever had on a Tuesday was 6.
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You must be on a part time duty!!! :Boo hoo!
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We got hammered today. Tuesday is normally one of the heaviest days for specials and packets anyway but letters and flats is normally very light. We had shed loads of everything today. I had 21 specials and five packet bags plus almost a full york of large packets. Almost like Christmas has come early :nana
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Post by resperin »

dont banks sometimes send their cards via "recorded sign for" - when they do, you'd get like about 15, or around 30 if on a 800+ call

you shouldnt be taking more than 5 specials out
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Priority Services Items
Do not carry more than the maximum number allowed. Do not expose yourself to risks.
If it is a high risk area then refer to the “WalkSafe” threat assessment procedure as it may
be necessary to reduce the number or remove these items completely on certain walks.
The important thing is that a Walk Risk Assessment must be carried out and such assessments
based on local knowledge and previous incidents may override these standards to ensure
the most appropriate safety and security protection levels are maintained at all times.
(A maximum of 8 Special Delivery (SD) individual items per walk may be carried each day,
of which no more than 3 may be higher value SD items, a maximum of 48 SD individual
items per walk each week of which no more than 18 may be higher value SD items. Walks
exceeding this standard number of items per week must to be Risk Assessed to determine
the appropriate method of delivery and whether it needs to be motorised. Ideally collection
and deliveries in town centre areas should be motorised. For the full details on Motorised/
Vehicle SD Delivery/Collection refer to Royal Mail Internal Information Special Delivery
Pipeline Conveyance Guidelines for the collection, delivery and distribution of SD items.
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I don't think there is a limit for van deliveries though is there?
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PhilthyPhil wrote:I don't think there is a limit for van deliveries though is there?
Not 100% on a limit,but some drives may have to be risk assessed if it gets to silly amounts i know that,for instance high st ones.
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43 last xmas,even the DOM came out of hibernation fer that one,mostly Amazon/Play.com (van )
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POSTMAN wrote:
PhilthyPhil wrote:I don't think there is a limit for van deliveries though is there?
Not 100% on a limit,but some drives may have to be risk assessed if it gets to silly amounts i know that,for instance high st ones.
At my old office it was always max 30 for a van driver - the High Street duty often used to exceed that and they would send the balance over 30 out with someone else
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7 specials, 7 recorded, 2 international today... Par for the course since April, but heavier than most days in the last month (strange how that coincided with PTs like myself starting at 0945, to which I raised the potential issue of leaving the depot at 1045ish with 7 or 8 specials).

Incidentally, how does one identify "high value specials" from standard SD?
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IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Incidentally, how does one identify "high value specials" from standard SD?
Anything for banks, POs or jewelers is normally the guideline I think.
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IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:7 specials, 7 recorded, 2 international today... Par for the course since April, but heavier than most days in the last month (strange how that coincided with PTs like myself starting at 0945, to which I raised the potential issue of leaving the depot at 1045ish with 7 or 8 specials).

Incidentally, how does one identify "high value specials" from standard SD?

you get to know
you can tell obvious stuff like jewelers,cash to PO's etc
also watch out(around now) for people getting their xmas vouchers and the like
they can have a high cash value
my office also delivers to a bank cash clearing house
they can get £100000's a day in £2500 bags
that goes on a specific van with a specific driver
must have ID and be known to the security guards
then its a controlled entry for the van with external van checks

managers know this
buy still send unknown guys round with no ID,wrong van etc
and are surprised when they are refused entry :roll:
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Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

custard wrote:
IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:7 specials, 7 recorded, 2 international today... Par for the course since April, but heavier than most days in the last month (strange how that coincided with PTs like myself starting at 0945, to which I raised the potential issue of leaving the depot at 1045ish with 7 or 8 specials).

Incidentally, how does one identify "high value specials" from standard SD?

you get to know
you can tell obvious stuff like jewelers,cash to PO's etc
also watch out(around now) for people getting their xmas vouchers and the like
they can have a high cash value
my office also delivers to a bank cash clearing house
they can get £100000's a day in £2500 bags
that goes on a specific van with a specific driver
must have ID and be known to the security guards
then its a controlled entry for the van with external van checks

managers know this
buy still send unknown guys round with no ID,wrong van etc
and are surprised when they are refused entry :roll:
Well to give you an idea of the shops I deliver specials to on a regular basis...
Jewellers
Pawnbrokers
Bank
Mobile phone company
Sub-Post Office
Supermarket
Dentist
Newsagents
Card Shop
Solicitors

I have many days since April where I could have eight of the above with me, sometimes even been asked by lino to take nine, if my first special drop is very early on in round (which normally is, the jewellers, just 2 minutes delivery time). Yet at no time has anyone at the depot raised the subject of "high value specials" and a three limit...
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Post by taurus88 »

I guess specials are only a big problem if you've got a lot of businesses on your round. The most I've ever had is 4. The most recordeds I've had is 15. I deliver to a poor-ish residential area so I don't expect the upper limit to fluctuate much beyond either of those two.