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fatigue study
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clashcityrocker
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Summary of recommendations for the Scottish Fatigue Study into deliveries to older style tenements.
Summary of recommendations for the Scottish Fatigue Study into deliveries to older style tenements.
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fishtank
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Re: fatigue study
Do you think these recommendations will be fully implemented?
It worries me that duties with partial tenements deliveries will be largely ignored.
What percentage of tenements constitutes a "tenement walk"?
It worries me that duties with partial tenements deliveries will be largely ignored.
What percentage of tenements constitutes a "tenement walk"?
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clashcityrocker
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Re: fatigue study
I think the question of implementation will be down to us.
The pouch weight matrix already stipulates a 5kg weight but this is ignored by both management (who bury their heads in the sand at the mere mention of it) and by posties who seem to have some sort of masochistic addiction to carrying 16kg bags up 4/5 flights of stairs.
If the consequence of a 3hr 30 delivery span means a cull of f/t staff and a reduction in "innovative" attendance patterns, then are Area going to provide support for offices that do want to implement these recommendations? (Recent history doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence)
Full meal relief to be enforced before delivery - that won't be popular with the must run round and finish 20 minutes early brigade. (f**k them)
Will senior managers sanction the massive reinvestment in these offices?
And the figure of +31 tenements being the trigger for a fixed delivery span has been mentioned but I have yet to see it in writing.
My own guess is that no-one will want to implement these changes before more work has been done.
My guess is the same s**t will carry on for another 20 years.
And while posties will moan about how physically demanding this job is, they will completely ignore the one study that could actually improve their daily working life.
The pouch weight matrix already stipulates a 5kg weight but this is ignored by both management (who bury their heads in the sand at the mere mention of it) and by posties who seem to have some sort of masochistic addiction to carrying 16kg bags up 4/5 flights of stairs.
If the consequence of a 3hr 30 delivery span means a cull of f/t staff and a reduction in "innovative" attendance patterns, then are Area going to provide support for offices that do want to implement these recommendations? (Recent history doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence)
Full meal relief to be enforced before delivery - that won't be popular with the must run round and finish 20 minutes early brigade. (f**k them)
Will senior managers sanction the massive reinvestment in these offices?
And the figure of +31 tenements being the trigger for a fixed delivery span has been mentioned but I have yet to see it in writing.
My own guess is that no-one will want to implement these changes before more work has been done.
My guess is the same s**t will carry on for another 20 years.
And while posties will moan about how physically demanding this job is, they will completely ignore the one study that could actually improve their daily working life.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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fishtank
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Re: fatigue study
I like the idea that tenements should be encouraged to install downstairs boxes.
Just how you would "encourage" them is another matter.
Just how you would "encourage" them is another matter.
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not me
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Re: fatigue study
in our office the stated times were 4 hours for main door walks and 3.30 for stair walks
this is all in inc large packet deliveries under park n loop
so 3 hour/3 hr 30 walks plus packets
well till last week when the whisper was it was going ot be 4 hours for everybody.....
this is all in inc large packet deliveries under park n loop
so 3 hour/3 hr 30 walks plus packets
well till last week when the whisper was it was going ot be 4 hours for everybody.....
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POSTMAN
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Re: fatigue study
Just curious,if this comes in and is agreed by all,what will happen to those who have already had revisions and have these type of calls?
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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steven100
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Re: fatigue study
RM don't listen to anyone, they keep digging bigger holes.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: fatigue study
The study was carried out by RM at the behest of their own planners.
If they choose to ignore their own recommendations what is going to happen at attendance procedure interviews?
If they choose to ignore their own recommendations what is going to happen at attendance procedure interviews?
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not me
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Re: fatigue study
clashcityrocker wrote:The study was carried out by RM at the behest of their own planners.
If they choose to ignore their own recommendations what is going to happen at attendance procedure interviews?
its funny
a lot of the senior guys on cookie main door walks(and ive done them so know it)
are now saying they will jump on the 'easier' stair walks
I cant wait if they pick them
Ive seen the proposed stair walks and they are over 3.5 for the 3 hour duty spans!
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Dorset Plodder
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Re: fatigue study
Have you though Clash that these Dickheads that insist on running around, up and down stairs, with extra heavy bags could be looking for a career with the Special Forces? Sounds just the right sort of training regime to me 
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london sub
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Re: fatigue study
Nice find clash...but if RM does not adhere to the document or documents that are given to them about sorting out a new revision within an office and decide to make every duty 4 hrs walking instead of 3.5 for some...then is this illigal?
I am afraid that the union know about this but will take a blind eye to this, and agree with everything that RM throws at them. Thats the impression i get.
I am afraid that the union know about this but will take a blind eye to this, and agree with everything that RM throws at them. Thats the impression i get.
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oneloveltd
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Re: fatigue study
that links dead wouldnt mind a read of it any chance
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fishtank
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Re: fatigue study
oneloveltd wrote:that links dead wouldnt mind a read of it any chance
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