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VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
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alloria
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VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
I had an angry customer speak with me the other day.
You see last week, I had a letter for him, but because there was a big van blocking his driveway, I could not get into his garden to deliver it, so I simply endorsed the letter as "no access" and took it back to the sorting office. I delivered it the next day.
He was angry because it was apparently a very important letter, and that the one day delay had caused him financial problems(!)
I pointed out to him that I was unable to deliver the letter, as his van was blocking his driveway, and I could not get to his house to deliver it, but he just kept going on about how important the letter was!
I then asked him, that if he was expecting this very important letter, why did he block his driveway with a van??? Apparently I was supposed to climb over the neighbors wall, and walk across his grass to get to his door!
So yeah, it is apparently my fault, and he is going to put in a complaint about me, I'm in for a really interesting talk with my manager tomorrow!
You see last week, I had a letter for him, but because there was a big van blocking his driveway, I could not get into his garden to deliver it, so I simply endorsed the letter as "no access" and took it back to the sorting office. I delivered it the next day.
He was angry because it was apparently a very important letter, and that the one day delay had caused him financial problems(!)
I pointed out to him that I was unable to deliver the letter, as his van was blocking his driveway, and I could not get to his house to deliver it, but he just kept going on about how important the letter was!
I then asked him, that if he was expecting this very important letter, why did he block his driveway with a van??? Apparently I was supposed to climb over the neighbors wall, and walk across his grass to get to his door!
So yeah, it is apparently my fault, and he is going to put in a complaint about me, I'm in for a really interesting talk with my manager tomorrow!
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cyberheater
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
Good luck mate. But I'd say, no access is no access.
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brothermagrew
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
Surely the van blocking his driveway constituted a hazard to you (blocked entrance) again climbing over neighbours wall constitutes a further hazard (chance that you may slip, trip or fall from the wall) and walking across grass (further hazard with potential slipping consequences). All in all think you done the right thing by endorsing his mail with no access and re-attempted delivery the next day.
Your manager would be the first one to issue you with a blameworthy letter should you have sustained an injury and possible time off whilst attempting to deliver.
Your manager would be the first one to issue you with a blameworthy letter should you have sustained an injury and possible time off whilst attempting to deliver.
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
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kimski1976
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
its simple really. the van is blocking access. his fault. our manager goes on everyday in the morning about sutff like this. and in his words, if anything seems a H&s issue. dont risk it. if your manager takes it further, go off stress.
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smokerjim
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
This is exactly why RM provide the reason of "Inaccessible" for non delivery, and your manager should trust you Alloria, you made the right call.brothermagrew wrote:Surely the van blocking his driveway constituted a hazard to you (blocked entrance) again climbing over neighbours wall constitutes a further hazard (chance that you may slip, trip or fall from the wall) and walking across grass (further hazard with potential slipping consequences). All in all think you done the right thing by endorsing his mail with no access and re-attempted delivery the next day.
Your manager would be the first one to issue you with a blameworthy letter should you have sustained an injury and possible time off whilst attempting to deliver.
I don't suppose your mouth bleeds every 28 days, does it?
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stokes11eg
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
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alloria
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
Thanks for your advice people!
My manager spoke to me this morning, basically saying that I had done the right thing by endorsing the letter, and that the customer was in the wrong.
My manager spoke to me this morning, basically saying that I had done the right thing by endorsing the letter, and that the customer was in the wrong.
Vote no on the "Agreement"
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dados
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
nice one,heres what mine would have said " So Dados (not my real name
) you are telling me that there was no way for you to deliver that letter"? "i find it hard to believe that there was no access past that van "
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REDLETTER
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
If it was THAT important the sender should have sent it Special Delivery. CHUMP!
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brothermagrew
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
The method by which the important letter was sent is not really the issue. The issue being access was blocked due to a big van being parked up in the driveway.
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
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Broxi51
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
brothermagrew wrote:The method by which the important letter was sent is not really the issue. The issue being access was blocked due to a big van being parked up in the driveway.
But Alloria must have known he was blocking access when he parked his big red van in the driveway
The time has come to stop turning the other cheek, time to stop shaking our heads in bitter dismay, time to stop mumbling our angry words.
The time has come for union.
The time has come for union.
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brothermagrew
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
Nice one brother Broxi51
But no mention of the van being red and it was the houseowners van that was parked up in the driveway.
But no mention of the van being red and it was the houseowners van that was parked up in the driveway.
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
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REDLETTER
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
It would then be tracked and the DIM could not offer his personal opinion when the important letter was not deliveredbrothermagrew wrote:The method by which the important letter was sent is not really the issue. The issue being access was blocked due to a big van being parked up in the driveway.
If you did put "no access" and the next day was your day off - then what would happen if the "cover" bloke "killed it off" and returned to sender
The important letter would never have got to the delivery point, and the owner of the van would be none the wiser when the letter failed to arrive.
AND
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Broxi51
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
You have to attempt delivery for 3 days before returning to sender.REDLETTER wrote:It would then be tracked and the DIM could not offer his personal opinion when the important letter was not deliveredbrothermagrew wrote:The method by which the important letter was sent is not really the issue. The issue being access was blocked due to a big van being parked up in the driveway.
If you did put "no access" and the next day was your day off - then what would happen if the "cover" bloke "killed it off" and returned to sender
The important letter would never have got to the delivery point, and the owner of the van would be none the wiser when the letter failed to arrive.
ANDWas then van blocking the drive the next day, so how was the important letter delivered, was it handed over in the street?
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The time has come to stop turning the other cheek, time to stop shaking our heads in bitter dismay, time to stop mumbling our angry words.
The time has come for union.
The time has come for union.
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REDLETTER
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT LETTER!!!
OK you've got 2 comp days after the "cover" man!Broxi51 wrote:You have to attempt delivery for 3 days before returning to sender.REDLETTER wrote:It would then be tracked and the DIM could not offer his personal opinion when the important letter was not deliveredbrothermagrew wrote:The method by which the important letter was sent is not really the issue. The issue being access was blocked due to a big van being parked up in the driveway.
If you did put "no access" and the next day was your day off - then what would happen if the "cover" bloke "killed it off" and returned to sender
The important letter would never have got to the delivery point, and the owner of the van would be none the wiser when the letter failed to arrive.
ANDWas then van blocking the drive the next day, so how was the important letter delivered, was it handed over in the street?
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After a week off I still have a various amount of RTS, B/Ups, and N/As to deal with, none with any dates that the "attempt" to deliver was made!