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The Union said it would be mostly 2.30pm last letter

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The Union said it would be mostly 2.30pm last letter

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So why are RM enforcing the 3pm in just about every office that has had or are having revisions??

And they will NOT account for travelling time within duty spans.
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Yeah, what's this not accounting for travelling time? Today we were told by DOM and Planner that they were happy with new revised P&L duties cos the LOOPS have tested in at 4:20...we have tried to say that driving between loops, parking up, replenishment etc will take these totals much higher, but we've been told that duty spans do not take this into account, just as we've been told no time for toiletting :crazy:

"Well the CWU agreed to it nationally", lol, might print this up on a T-Shirt for the DIM to wear while he's out delivering cut-offs... :funneh
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mclovin wrote:So why are RM enforcing the 3pm in just about every office that has had or are having revisions??

And they will NOT account for travelling time within duty spans.

travelling out or back?
simple answer is work to your time
if they wont cover your return time within the duty then ask them wehre they want the van left
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Aye in the end its the management that will pay for the total mess that will ensue, because 10 minutes before the end of my duty Im going back to the office to dump whats left on the manager.

I will cut it so fine there will be no time on the clock for him to even speak to me about it.
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custard wrote:
mclovin wrote:So why are RM enforcing the 3pm in just about every office that has had or are having revisions??

And they will NOT account for travelling time within duty spans.

travelling out or back?
simple answer is work to your time
if they wont cover your return time within the duty then ask them wehre they want the van left
No travelling time set into duty span either way as far as I can make out.
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mclovin wrote:So why are RM enforcing the 3pm in just about every office that has had or are having revisions??

And they will NOT account for travelling time within duty spans.
They LIED because they would say anything to get you to vote yes in the ballot :left:
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And they will NOT account for travelling time within duty spans.
Get it put in then,you are entitled to it!!
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You're joking aint ya Postman??

They clowns aint even began thinking about our revision yet, I got this info from a neighbouring office which is just about ready to go, and they are right militant motherhummers.

I am on the team to help the union rep and the planner and gaffer sort the revision out so I wll be trying to get as early a finish as is possible for the office and everything else we're entitiled to.
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mclovin wrote:You're joking aint ya Postman??

They clowns aint even began thinking about our revision yet, I got this info from a neighbouring office which is just about ready to go, and they are right militant motherhummers.

I am on the team to help the union rep and the planner and gaffer sort the revision out so I wll be trying to get as early a finish as is possible for the office and everything else we're entitiled to.
Can't be that militant then if they've just been mugged like that.
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mclovin wrote:
custard wrote:
mclovin wrote:So why are RM enforcing the 3pm in just about every office that has had or are having revisions??

And they will NOT account for travelling time within duty spans.

travelling out or back?
simple answer is work to your time
if they wont cover your return time within the duty then ask them wehre they want the van left
No travelling time set into duty span either way as far as I can make out.
we had the same
just relax and work to your time
whats easier?
delivering to your time
or driving back to the DO for your time :wink:
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McLovin mate the dutybuilder the planner uses has RCS codes for travelling there and back.
A Travel out and back H Will be associated with appropriate delivery RCS code
T Town Delivery H21 As per RCS definition
F Firms Delivery H22 As per RCS definition
O Town Delivery Other H23 As per RCS definition
R Rural Delivery H25 As per RCS definition
V OMV Residential Delivery H27 As per RCS definition
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Hi travel is included have a look at the duty builder its in there, top left hand corner it comes in after van checks and it is travel out and back, dont take any crap they are conning you.
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Feck that im bringing this up im my resource meeting asap.

If no travel times going to be in putted I aint doing any-more phases.

I think i will get the DOM to put his reply in a letter so i can hold him to it.

Thanks for the heads up lads
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Post by REDLETTER »

What about pouch boxes and replenishing from them? is that time added to the duty, I'm not involved with the planning of the duties, but I think ours have been planned with a run from start to finish!

Nothing about pouch boxes, travel time, pouching off and toilet breaks. - We still finish out on the duties and pouch off at the nearest Post Office!
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mclovin wrote:So why are RM enforcing the 3pm in just about every office that has had or are having revisions??

And they will NOT account for travelling time within duty spans.

Perhaps the've got some sort of teleportation device that transports you back to the office instantaneously,i know they deinitely exist because i saw them on Star Trek when i was a kid. Beam me back Scottie! :dance