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Changing Duty Times & Days

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Changing Duty Times & Days

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Just a quickie for any Union Reps out there , if the DOM wants to change a posties duty from a 7am - 3pm mon-fri to a 6 -2 mon-sat with a rotating day off how much notice is he required to give?
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Without an agreement that is executive action!
28 days seem to be the norm.
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hj4k wrote:Just a quickie for any Union Reps out there , if the DOM wants to change a posties duty from a 7am - 3pm mon-fri to a 6 -2 mon-sat with a rotating day off how much notice is he required to give?

If your contract is Mon - Friday I very much doubt he can do this. I would ring up HR.

I def would not give up a contract which is Mon - Friday without a fight. Check your contract.
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hj4k wrote:Just a quickie for any Union Reps out there , if the DOM wants to change a posties duty from a 7am - 3pm mon-fri to a 6 -2 mon-sat with a rotating day off how much notice is he required to give?
It has to be negotiated with the union to be able to change duty times
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If your contract is Mon - Friday I very much doubt he can do this. I would ring up HR.

I def would not give up a contract which is Mon - Friday without a fight. Check your contract.[/quote]
His contract does not say Mon-Fri , in fact he's only worked these hours since the last revision 18 months ago. Manager seems to agree with Postman and says 28 days is required.
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I would give my left nut for a mon-fri duty. Wouldn't give that up without a fight they are rarer than a fart in a nunnery! :dance
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But is it a fight worth having , or is he on a hiding to nothing?
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hj4k wrote:But is it a fight worth having , or is he on a hiding to nothing?
Without an agreement that is executive action!
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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hj4k wrote:If your contract is Mon - Friday I very much doubt he can do this. I would ring up HR.

I def would not give up a contract which is Mon - Friday without a fight. Check your contract.
His contract does not say Mon-Fri , in fact he's only worked these hours since the last revision 18 months ago. Manager seems to agree with Postman and says 28 days is required.[/quote]

What does his contract say?
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hj4k wrote:Just a quickie for any Union Reps out there , if the DOM wants to change a posties duty from a 7am - 3pm mon-fri to a 6 -2 mon-sat with a rotating day off how much notice is he required to give?

Change of content of duty no notice needs to be given.

Change to start finish times should be 4 weeks notice in writing.
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hantsman wrote:
hj4k wrote:If your contract is Mon - Friday I very much doubt he can do this. I would ring up HR.

I def would not give up a contract which is Mon - Friday without a fight. Check your contract.
His contract does not say Mon-Fri , in fact he's only worked these hours since the last revision 18 months ago. Manager seems to agree with Postman and says 28 days is required.
What does his contract say?[/quote]
don't know exactly but he's been there for over 20yrs!
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Could anyone tell me where it says 4 weeks notice is requireed to change a duty and, Postman, what is the significance , or what are the implications ,of EXECUTIVE ACTION??? Please could you be specific about this as it could be very important to me, I was given 1 day's notice after 4 years .
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hj4k wrote:
hantsman wrote:
hj4k wrote:If your contract is Mon - Friday I very much doubt he can do this. I would ring up HR.

I def would not give up a contract which is Mon - Friday without a fight. Check your contract.
His contract does not say Mon-Fri , in fact he's only worked these hours since the last revision 18 months ago. Manager seems to agree with Postman and says 28 days is required.
What does his contract say?
don't know exactly but he's been there for over 20yrs![/quote]


Well being blunt you need to find out, your said "his contract was Mon - friday" ........RM cannot change that without his say so and a new contract.

Get him to ring HR
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liamlayor wrote:Could anyone tell me where it says 4 weeks notice is requireed to change a duty and, Postman, what is the significance , or what are the implications ,of EXECUTIVE ACTION??? Please could you be specific about this as it could be very important to me, I was given 1 day's notice after 4 years .
Executive Action in Royal Mail circumstances is where Management of any level impose a change, operational, contractual, attendance etc, without gaining agreement from the Union, or by withdrawing from an agreement.

On the 4 weeks notice - Hopefully a Rep can answer that but I will research when I can and post if I find solid evidence.
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