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CHANGE OF BREAK TIMES

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rolf
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CHANGE OF BREAK TIMES

Post by rolf »

We are now at a crossroads in our office as some folk are leaving packets and now 1st class mail as of saturday, however the DOM has said that he wants to change break times from 820 to another time that suits them ie 830 or 840 can anyone please tell me if this possible.
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Re: CHANGE OF BREAK TIMES

Post by DirtyHarry »

Can't see it matters what time you take your breaks, 7.5hrs is 7.5hrs, no matter how much management tries to bend it, shape it, anyway they want it. If workload is over the top, it's over the top, carry on cutting off. :Very Happy
horris
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Post by horris »

They cant make you work more than 4 hours without taking a break ( I think it's 4 hours)
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Re: CHANGE OF BREAK TIMES

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rolf wrote:We are now at a crossroads in our office as some folk are leaving packets and now 1st class mail as of saturday, however the DOM has said that he wants to change break times from 820 to another time that suits them ie 830 or 840 can anyone please tell me if this possible.
What difference does this make to either cut offs or to your working day.
It might be a little mischevious by the Dom to get you all to panic and feel intimidated,go with it for it makes no difference as long as you can take it.
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gb93 wrote: What difference does this make to either cut offs or to your working day.
If you were all sitting doing nothing for 30 mins between 7.30 and 8.00 and then 10 minutes after a van arrived you all went off for a 40min break, changing the time of your break would make sense.
If that isn't the case, it won't make any difference to your day.
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Re: CHANGE OF BREAK TIMES

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clashcityrocker wrote:
gb93 wrote: What difference does this make to either cut offs or to your working day.
If you were all sitting doing nothing for 30 mins between 7.30 and 8.00 and then 10 minutes after a van arrived you all went off for a 40min break, changing the time of your break would make sense.
If that isn't the case, it won't make any difference to your day.
Agree but the times given were changing from 8.20 to 8.30 or 8.40 not exactly seismic.
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rolf wrote:We are now at a crossroads in our office as some folk are leaving packets and now 1st class mail as of saturday, however the DOM has said that he wants to change break times from 820 to another time that suits them ie 830 or 840 can anyone please tell me if this possible.
Simple Answer: Yes they can

Complicated answer: Employers can tell employees "when" to take a break as long as it complies with the following:

The requirements are:

* the break must be in one block
* it cannot be taken off one end of the working day - it must be somewhere in the middle
* you are allowed to spend it away from the place on your employer's premises where you work


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Post by ashadd »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
rolf wrote:We are now at a crossroads in our office as some folk are leaving packets and now 1st class mail as of saturday, however the DOM has said that he wants to change break times from 820 to another time that suits them ie 830 or 840 can anyone please tell me if this possible.
Simple Answer: Yes they can

Complicated answer: Employers can tell employees "when" to take a break as long as it complies with the following:

The requirements are:

* the break must be in one block
* it cannot be taken off one end of the working day - it must be somewhere in the middle
* you are allowed to spend it away from the place on your employer's premises where you work


Source: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10029451" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So in theory....you could all go home and have your meal relief there...????????? is that right...????
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ashadd wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
rolf wrote:We are now at a crossroads in our office as some folk are leaving packets and now 1st class mail as of saturday, however the DOM has said that he wants to change break times from 820 to another time that suits them ie 830 or 840 can anyone please tell me if this possible.
Simple Answer: Yes they can

Complicated answer: Employers can tell employees "when" to take a break as long as it complies with the following:

The requirements are:

* the break must be in one block
* it cannot be taken off one end of the working day - it must be somewhere in the middle
* you are allowed to spend it away from the place on your employer's premises where you work


Source: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10029451" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So in theory....you could all go home and have your meal relief there...????????? is that right...????
Yes

But

The travelling time counts as part of the break - and travel arrangements up to you not the business. :cry
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ashadd
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Re: CHANGE OF BREAK TIMES

Post by ashadd »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
ashadd wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
rolf wrote:We are now at a crossroads in our office as some folk are leaving packets and now 1st class mail as of saturday, however the DOM has said that he wants to change break times from 820 to another time that suits them ie 830 or 840 can anyone please tell me if this possible.
Simple Answer: Yes they can

Complicated answer: Employers can tell employees "when" to take a break as long as it complies with the following:

The requirements are:

* the break must be in one block
* it cannot be taken off one end of the working day - it must be somewhere in the middle
* you are allowed to spend it away from the place on your employer's premises where you work


Source: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10029451" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So in theory....you could all go home and have your meal relief there...????????? is that right...????
Yes

But

The travelling time counts as part of the break - and travel arrangements up to you not the business. :cry

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So if you if you have your break somewhere in the middle, which would be around ten, and if you live near your walk ,or on your walk, you can still have it at home....yes? :pray And the travel time would not be an issue , so you could still spend the whole 40 mins at home ...yes? :cuppa :cuppa :cuppa
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ashadd wrote:So if you if you have your break somewhere in the middle, which would be around ten, and if you live near your walk ,or on your walk, you can still have it at home....yes? :pray And the travel time would not be an issue , so you could still spend the whole 40 mins at home ...yes? :cuppa :cuppa :cuppa
A qualified YES - as most DOMs in RM would fight it I think - also there would be some question over mail integrity and security as you are not allowed to take mail home.

The tack I can see most managers taking is enforcing the timing of the break to make if more difficult to take at home.
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OK...What if :crazy: your house is on route from finishing one pouch, to going to pick up another one??? you would then not be taking mail home with you...................................OR...............................What if your house is used for a bag drop, even your bag drop..????? what happens then....? mmmmmmmmmmmm? :dance :dance
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What if you live in the DO and you are covering the backshift PHG duty?
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Re: CHANGE OF BREAK TIMES

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And also......... :wink: can we not take our meal relief in two parts..??????..20 mins at work and 20 mins at home... :d'oh! :cuppa :cuppa :cuppa or away from work?? :hmmmm
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