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Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
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Eric Cantona
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Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
Heard a rumour in my office Today that RM are trying to get the union to agree if it's your day off and it falls on a bank holiday they are not going to owe you a day,they are supposed to be trying this from next April,it's only a rumour but you never know.
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westlondonpostie
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
Doubt it,
By doing this a few people unlucky to have the day off on a bank holiday would end up working five days while the rest only had to do 4 for the same money.
By doing this a few people unlucky to have the day off on a bank holiday would end up working five days while the rest only had to do 4 for the same money.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
I doubt it also as the Directgov website has this little snippet:
Also as the 8 days PH in England are part of your minimum entitlement to paid holiday they would have to increase our annual leave to make sure they met the minimum legal requirements. At the moment the minimum amount is 28 days and RM give us 4 x 5 days + 8 days PH (making 28) if they removed the 8 days PH entitlement by not paying it or by giving it in lieu then they would have to increase the basic entitlement to reflect it.
Ergo no change IMHO.
My reading would be that they have to either pay you for the day off or give you a day off in lieu.If you are part time and your employer gives workers additional time off on bank holidays, this should be given pro rata to you as well, even if the bank holiday does not fall on your usual work day.
Also as the 8 days PH in England are part of your minimum entitlement to paid holiday they would have to increase our annual leave to make sure they met the minimum legal requirements. At the moment the minimum amount is 28 days and RM give us 4 x 5 days + 8 days PH (making 28) if they removed the 8 days PH entitlement by not paying it or by giving it in lieu then they would have to increase the basic entitlement to reflect it.
Ergo no change IMHO.
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Eric Cantona
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
They done it last Christmas,those that had boxing day off was short changed,or was it the Christmas before.
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Big Daz
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
Eric Cantona wrote:They done it last Christmas,those that had boxing day off was short changed,or was it the Christmas before.
It was last xmas, they got away with it as Saturday was not classed as BH, the monday was classed as BH instead of Saturday. RML in their genroisty gave us Saturday off as they were allowed by the regulator to class the Saturday as no service day. You do not get a day back for non service days only for offical BH, something for CWU to tackle!
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
It was last Christmas - a Saturday which RM gave everyone off but without a "in lieu" entitlement for those that had Saturday off anyway. They got away with this as the Saturday was not the "Official Bank Holiday" Monday wasEric Cantona wrote:They done it last Christmas,those that had boxing day off was short changed,or was it the Christmas before.
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dvbuk55
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
Yes, but I wouldn't hold your breath.Big Daz wrote:Eric Cantona wrote:They done it last Christmas,those that had boxing day off was short changed,or was it the Christmas before.
It was last xmas, they got away with it as Saturday was not classed as BH, the monday was classed as BH instead of Saturday. RML in their genroisty gave us Saturday off as they were allowed by the regulator to class the Saturday as no service day. You do not get a day back for non service days only for offical BH, something for CWU to tackle!
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Wiggins79
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
Not that I'm trying to wish my life away or anything, but does anyone know what the crack is this year for Xmas and New Year bank holidays? According to my diary Saturday 25th is Christmas Day, so we should get that off no problem. But then with Boxing Day being on the Sunday and Xmas day being on the Saturday, it looks like we should get Monday 27th and Tuesday 28th in lieu. As I said, thi is all according to my diary, and as much as I would wish it, I can't see RM giving us Monday AND Tuesday off. Also, New Years Day is on a Saturday- so shouldn't that mean Monday off as a day in lieu? Fingers crossed, but I ain't holding my breath.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
Substitute day means instead of because the original is on A Saturday or Sunday.
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smileski
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
so if your long weekend falls at christmas, will you get saturday (xmas day) and the monday (27th) back?
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fishtank
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
I don't think so.smileski wrote:so if your long weekend falls at christmas, will you get saturday (xmas day) and the monday (27th) back?
If they follow last years model Saturday will be a "no-service" day and Mon and Tues will be the bank holidays.
So you will only get Mon back.
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kimski1976
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
i dont really bother wasting my time on this anymore. last august my day fell off on a bank holiday. or around then, maybe earlier. and just today, i got that day back after over 1 year of nagging!!!! hurray!!!
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Wiggins79
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
Not sure if this is the same across the country (whatever is nowadays?) but we were told by our manager that days owed for bank holidays could not be taken until the following financial year. Anyone else get this? I suspect it has more to do with hoping that people will forget than any official policy.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
Yes,it goes on the the next years allocation.Wiggins79 wrote:Not sure if this is the same across the country (whatever is nowadays?) but we were told by our manager that days owed for bank holidays could not be taken until the following financial year. Anyone else get this? I suspect it has more to do with hoping that people will forget than any official policy.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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fishtank
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Re: Bank Holiday and Lose your Day off.
Not up here...not if it was annual leave anyway,you get that back the same year.POSTMAN wrote:Yes,it goes on the the next years allocation.Wiggins79 wrote:Not sure if this is the same across the country (whatever is nowadays?) but we were told by our manager that days owed for bank holidays could not be taken until the following financial year. Anyone else get this? I suspect it has more to do with hoping that people will forget than any official policy.
Day off was different though...it goes into next year.
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