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Average holiday pay.

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Right sp im on leave this week so i'll be dropping down to my pitiful 20 hour contract. I rang HR services to see if i will recieve an average of my last 12 weeks pay while i'm on leave, and was pretty much laughed at on the phone. I did a bit searching onile and found this......http://www.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/i/c/AL03_1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Can anyone clarify what the legal position is over this. Is it me expecting too much of RM doing as they please yet again?
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I'm no expert but I would say you'll only get the 20 hours you're contracted to work because it says:

Pay for non contractual overtime is excluded.

So unless the overtime is in your contract you'll only be paid your basic contracted hours.
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Unless someone takes RM to a tribunal then you'll never know, it would also be interesting to see if they could get away with it because the duties being covered are longer then the contracted hours.
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I'm sure they are entitled to it,it's been on here,but i'm guessing it will be hard to find in a search.
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POSTMAN wrote:I'm sure they are entitled to it,it's been on here,but i'm guessing it will be hard to find in a search.
Someone must remember.
That was the 1 hour contract one.
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http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... r+contract" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Yep i got that one too,but 1hr,10hr,20hr,you get my drift.
But i'm sure HR agreed someone who was not on a 1hr contract would get average pay.Or is it my age.
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POSTMAN wrote:Yep i got that one too,but 1hr,10hr,20hr,you get my drift.
But i'm sure HR agreed someone who was not on a 1hr contract would get average pay.Or is it my age.
I remember that too but then I could also be going a bit senile :nervous it's that bloody naughty room :wink:
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POSTMAN wrote:I'm sure they are entitled to it,it's been on here,but i'm guessing it will be hard to find in a search.
Someone must remember.
Whitemoor 66, if that helps judicial adjudication and repayment of holiday and pension entitlement due to Working regular excess over and above contracted hours. IE he took the pickpockets to court and won back pay plus compensation(without help from the CWU ,which I find very curious :hmmmm )
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BELIAL wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:I'm sure they are entitled to it,it's been on here,but i'm guessing it will be hard to find in a search.
Someone must remember.
Whitemoor 66, if that helps judicial adjudication and repayment of holiday and pension entitlement due to Working regular excess over and above contracted hours. IE he took the pickpockets to court and won back pay plus compensation(without help from the CWU ,which I find very curious :hmmmm )
I think there was another one after whitemoor won his case, RM agreed to pay people there holiday pay but it was only those on 1 hour contracts.
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DGP1 wrote:
BELIAL wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:I'm sure they are entitled to it,it's been on here,but i'm guessing it will be hard to find in a search.
Someone must remember.
Whitemoor 66, if that helps judicial adjudication and repayment of holiday and pension entitlement due to Working regular excess over and above contracted hours. IE he took the pickpockets to court and won back pay plus compensation(without help from the CWU ,which I find very curious :hmmmm )
I think there was another one after whitemoor won his case, RM agreed to pay people there holiday pay but it was only those on 1 hour contracts.
Can't remember any others but I do recall W66"s case and he did post the official transcript of his tribunal, and for the life of me I cannot fathom why the CWU has not exploited this judgement nationally because it would protect far more FT jobs than any convoluted agreement to deliver D2D for free or 5 hour delivery spans :shhhhh
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I think we all rem Whitmoor,but i'm also sure others got stuff as well.
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Was it TragicTramp http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... rs+holiday" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



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http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 15&t=18678" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Royal Mail and the one hour contact http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... =whitemoor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

or this one but its tenuous http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... or#p189820" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Ok,just had a quick look and i'm guessing it's a yes then?

Oh teebs,all leave has been cancelled until this is sorted. :so there
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