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Conflict of Interest?

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DemonPostie
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Conflict of Interest?

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Ok, I'm not sure of the official job title, but there's one postie in my office who's tasked with carrying out the DOM's orders, making sure D2D's are done, getting people around to IPS, etc. etc. He's not the "second in command", but just sorta a "head postie". I have it on good authority that he gets an extra 30 quid a week for this job.

Now, he's also out union rep.

Does anyone see a conflict of interest here? He's paid extra to do managerial type work, and yet he's supposed to be on "our side"...

Or is this the norm in other offices aswell?
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Sounds like a managerial tactic, probably came with the bullying and harassment package they received. "Keep your friends close and your enemise closer" comes to mind.
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I know there's a supplement for office supervisor and work place coach... is he either of these? Both of these are technically above posties and below management.
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Post by postie222 »

Could be a Dom support
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Post by Eric Cantona »

One in our office as well, he is doing the customer complaints side of it and asking walk holders about their walk, A+ thing. but he stilll takes walk out...
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DemonPostie wrote:Ok, I'm not sure of the official job title, but there's one postie in my office who's tasked with carrying out the DOM's orders, making sure D2D's are done, getting people around to IPS, etc. etc. He's not the "second in command", but just sorta a "head postie". I have it on good authority that he gets an extra 30 quid a week for this job.

Now, he's also out union rep.

Does anyone see a conflict of interest here? He's paid extra to do managerial type work, and yet he's supposed to be on "our side"...

Or is this the norm in other offices aswell?
Do you work in the same office as me????
This is a bone of contention I have struggled with for years
and NO he cannot be a DOM support because if he was he would have to stand
down as Union Rep, very fine line he is treading thou :wave :wave
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Post by arty_morty »

There's a postie in my office who is assistant union rep, workplace coach and office snitch. He's been with RM for 15 or so years and people know not to say anything private to him as it doesn't stay private very long.
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sounds like a work place coach! £33 a week for doing F**K ALL!
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number one wrote:sounds like a work place coach! £33 a week for doing F**K ALL!
It really is money for old rope. I thought he only got the £33 when a new starter had to be trained. In this case, me. I spent a week with him 5 weeks ago and the previous new starter at our DO was over a year ago. So he's been picking up £33 a week for coaching absolutely nobody.
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arty_morty wrote:
number one wrote:sounds like a work place coach! £33 a week for doing F**K ALL!
It really is money for old rope. I thought he only got the £33 when a new starter had to be trained. In this case, me. I spent a week with him 5 weeks ago and the previous new starter at our DO was over a year ago. So he's been picking up £33 a week for coaching absolutely nobody.

we havent had a new start in probably 2 years
so the coach is paid for cock all
nice if you can get it
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number one wrote:sounds like a work place coach! £33 a week for doing F**K ALL!
Oi!!! I'm a workplace coach and I earn my £23.91 or whatever it is I get pro rata!

Just because you know one lazy git, don't tar all WPC with the same brush tyvm. :mad
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Post by gerardy »

Aprilaydee,
i have some news for you the workplace coach payment is a skills payment and is not pro rata as Royal Mail would have you believe.
Section 9 on the induction and workplace coach support deals with allowances, and point 9.1 tells that this payment is the full amount now £31.49 pensionable each week on successful appointment to this position no matter what the level of work you take on. (2006 this agreement)
The 2000 way forward agreement that Royal Mail use to argue all allowances are pro rata is dated and was 5 or 6 years before the introduction of the workplace coach so has no realavance.
Take out a disagreement against them and get all the money owing to you back dated.
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gerardy wrote:Aprilaydee,
i have some news for you the workplace coach payment is a skills payment and is not pro rata as Royal Mail would have you believe.
Section 9 on the induction and workplace coach support deals with allowances, and point 9.1 tells that this payment is the full amount now £31.49 pensionable each week on successful appointment to this position no matter what the level of work you take on. (2006 this agreement)
The 2000 way forward agreement that Royal Mail use to argue all allowances are pro rata is dated and was 5 or 6 years before the introduction of the workplace coach so has no realavance.
Take out a disagreement against them and get all the money owing to you back dated.
Sound advice :wave :wave
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gerardy wrote:Aprilaydee,
i have some news for you the workplace coach payment is a skills payment and is not pro rata as Royal Mail would have you believe.
Section 9 on the induction and workplace coach support deals with allowances, and point 9.1 tells that this payment is the full amount now £31.49 pensionable each week on successful appointment to this position no matter what the level of work you take on. (2006 this agreement)
The 2000 way forward agreement that Royal Mail use to argue all allowances are pro rata is dated and was 5 or 6 years before the introduction of the workplace coach so has no realavance.
Take out a disagreement against them and get all the money owing to you back dated.
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Re: Conflict of Interest?

Post by DemonPostie »

Aprilaydee wrote:I know there's a supplement for office supervisor and work place coach... is he either of these? Both of these are technically above posties and below management.

I don't think he's a work-place coach (as I haven't seen him talk to a newb once, myself included...), so maybe an office supervisor?

He's also in an hour and a half early every morning... w****r.

But anyhow, can you be office super and rep at the same time?