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Dawn shift payment resolved

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Martin Walsh
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Dawn shift payment resolved

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An ltb has come out which explains the union has now resolved this issue. Any individual who lost their. Dawn allowance when the supplement started will continue to recieve the supplement plus an extra reserved rights payment equal to the difference between the supplement and the Dawn shift payment. This payment will be pensionable.

To all those who believe they are better outside the union do you really think that these would have resolved without a union!
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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So why aren't they getting the full £23.55....only £11.18.
If only ESA1+2 went into the pot with the D2D money where is their other £12.37 going....the managers Christmas fund?
That's money lost from the pay pot dingo not something to applaud.
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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The same place as any other expired allowance, what we need is details of the overall CWU grade pay bill for RML and have it broken down by grade. This could be produced every year and released with half year and full year financial results.
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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I thought RM was struggling to pay the weekly wage bill????? They must have some money stashed away under the mattress for such 'rainy days' as forgetting to pay somebody all their allowances that were due to them.
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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CWU = getting f**k all for unlimited d2ds. Yes well done dingo and the cwu!
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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dingo wrote:An ltb has come out which explains the union has now resolved this issue. Any individual who lost their. Dawn allowance when the supplement started will continue to recieve the supplement plus an extra reserved rights payment equal to the difference between the supplement and the Dawn shift payment. This payment will be pensionable.

To all those who believe they are better outside the union do you really think that these would have resolved without a union!
Ok I'm a little bit confused the dawn shift allowance is £23.55 the delivery suplement is £20.27 does this mean the people who were getting the dawn shift allowance will not get an extra £3.28 to take them up the the dawn shift allowance?
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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horris wrote:
dingo wrote:An ltb has come out which explains the union has now resolved this issue. Any individual who lost their. Dawn allowance when the supplement started will continue to recieve the supplement plus an extra reserved rights payment equal to the difference between the supplement and the Dawn shift payment. This payment will be pensionable.

To all those who believe they are better outside the union do you really think that these would have resolved without a union!
Ok I'm a little bit confused the dawn shift allowance is £23.55 the delivery suplement is £20.27 does this mean the people who were getting the dawn shift allowance will not get an extra £3.28 to take them up the the dawn shift allowance?
No it means they will get the delivery supplement £20.60 plus £11.18 reserved rights payment rather than the delivery supplement £20.60 plus the dawn shift allowance £23.55 that they should get if Royal Mail had been held to the agreement.
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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fishtank wrote:
horris wrote:
dingo wrote:An ltb has come out which explains the union has now resolved this issue. Any individual who lost their. Dawn allowance when the supplement started will continue to recieve the supplement plus an extra reserved rights payment equal to the difference between the supplement and the Dawn shift payment. This payment will be pensionable.

To all those who believe they are better outside the union do you really think that these would have resolved without a union!
Ok I'm a little bit confused the dawn shift allowance is £23.55 the delivery suplement is £20.27 does this mean the people who were getting the dawn shift allowance will not get an extra £3.28 to take them up the the dawn shift allowance?
No it means they will get the delivery supplement £20.60 plus £11.18 reserved rights payment rather than the delivery supplement £20.60 plus the dawn shift allowance £23.55 that they should get if Royal Mail had been held to the agreement.

oic so people who were getting the dawn shift allowance will now get a combined total of £31.78 rather than the £47.15 they were told they would get? I know it's more than some will be getting and well done to the union for getting something but if the agreement said those staff should have kept the £23.55 then why accpet anything less? Royal Mail are quick enough to quote the terms of the agreement when it's something they want but not so quick to honour the agreement if they dont like it.
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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dingo wrote:An ltb has come out which explains the union has now resolved this issue. Any individual who lost their. Dawn allowance when the supplement started will continue to recieve the supplement plus an extra reserved rights payment equal to the difference between the supplement and the Dawn shift payment. This payment will be pensionable.

To all those who believe they are better outside the union do you really think that these would have resolved without a union!
Yes! Because it is a compromise as all the dealings for the past 5 years have been - dealing from a position of weakness does not produce results - any news on the London closures compromise yet?
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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does this mean we will get the £12.37 early start allowance? all very confusing!
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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sanndos wrote:does this mean we will get the £12.37 early start allowance? all very confusing!
No,end of confusion :crazy:
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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mdm wrote:CWU = getting f**k all for unlimited d2ds. Yes well done dingo and the cwu!
and I thought you supported the free market principle where profit is best, a least the party you say you support does.

One of the natural effects of a free market system is reduction of costs (ie stop paying us for delivering D2Ds) and increasing productivity (ie removing the cap on D2Ds). Perhaps your not as much of a supporter of the Conservatives as you thought. :Very Happy :Very Happy :Very Happy
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
mdm wrote:CWU = getting f**k all for unlimited d2ds. Yes well done dingo and the cwu!
and I thought you supported the free market principle where profit is best, a least the party you say you support does.

One of the natural effects of a free market system is reduction of costs (ie stop paying us for delivering D2Ds) and increasing productivity (ie removing the cap on D2Ds). Perhaps your not as much of a supporter of the Conservatives as you thought. :Very Happy :Very Happy :Very Happy
BTW Dingo is not a CWU Officer and had no part in drawing up the agreement, he is a senior rep thats all.
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
mdm wrote:CWU = getting f**k all for unlimited d2ds. Yes well done dingo and the cwu!
BTW Dingo is not a CWU Officer and had no part in drawing up the agreement, he is a senior rep thats all.[/quote]
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Re: Dawn shift payment resolved

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Big Daz wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
mdm wrote:CWU = getting f**k all for unlimited d2ds. Yes well done dingo and the cwu!
BTW Dingo is not a CWU Officer and had no part in drawing up the agreement, he is a senior rep thats all.[/quote]
What's the matter BD, d'you think we're going blind, we all know what dingo is and what HE thinks he is :whistle