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packmule
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D2D payment

Post by packmule »

Yet another rip off by RM backed by CWU.


Has anyone noticed the rate for this crap is reduced further if you purchase extra leave ?
Rang HR over £20.03 payment and was told it was due to buying the extra, so even though you get paid the pitance whilst on holiday because we have taken the option to buy you get less than someone who hasn't :hmmmm

Nice to know its all an even playing field
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Re: D2D payment

Post by not me »

the payment has nothing to do with D2D
you do not get any payment for D2D

im assuming the rate is set by a 40 hour week x weeks worked per annum
so if you work less(like the part timers) then the rate is reduced
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Re: D2D payment

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If you can afford to take extra leave then you don't need all the £20.60 payment. :Very Happy Simple. :nana
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I think this is being looked at,fish,is it?
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Re: D2D payment

Post by Big Daz »

I think it was, another cock up as CWU assumed.

As its a basic pay supplement, RM then treat it as basic pay for leave purchse, another cock up as RML asumed that would be the case.


Did they actually disscuss this in the talks or was it forgotten?

If its not in the agreement in black and white one way or the other its a receipe for differences of opinion to develop with no clear info to support either view :d'oh! :arrrghhh
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Re: D2D payment

Post by fishtank »

If you buy a weeks annual leave you are effectively taking a weeks unpaid leave.
If you take unpaid leave you do not get the supplement....is that fair? :neutral: .
The reason the reduction is taken from your supplement as well as your basic pay is because your basic is pensionable and the supplement is not.
It would be unfair to reduce pensionable pay to pay for a non-pensionable supplement
The only thing you have to be careful with is that the figures add up.
I know someone who was paying for 8 days annual leave when they only requested and received 4......for almost 10 years. :shock:
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Re: D2D payment

Post by smelly_cat_lady »

I'm sorry but I don't see your logic. If you're at work, you get the supplement, if you're on paid annual leave you get the supplement but if you're on unpaid leave you don't? Nope don't see the problem with that? :speak to the hand :speak to the hand
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Re: D2D payment

Post by superdaddybear »

packmule wrote:Yet another rip off by RM backed by CWU.


Has anyone noticed the rate for this crap is reduced further if you purchase extra leave ?
Rang HR over £20.03 payment and was told it was due to buying the extra, so even though you get paid the pitance whilst on holiday because we have taken the option to buy you get less than someone who hasn't :hmmmm

Nice to know its all an even playing field
This D2D system is the best yet.
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Re: D2D payment

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Re: D2D payment

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97gaz wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:If you can afford to take extra leave then you don't need all the £20.60 payment. :Very Happy Simple. :nana
It's been a few years since I started buying annual leave but it was a no brainer for me. Seem to recall that what I was having deducted from my pay was about the same as I got back in pay for the week that I'd bought.
I'm sure someone will come up with the figures
:chuckle :chuckle

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Re: D2D payment

Post by plainpat »

fishtank wrote:
97gaz wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:If you can afford to take extra leave then you don't need all the £20.60 payment. :Very Happy Simple. :nana
It's been a few years since I started buying annual leave but it was a no brainer for me. Seem to recall that what I was having deducted from my pay was about the same as I got back in pay for the week that I'd bought.
I'm sure someone will come up with the figures
:chuckle :chuckle

You're havin a laugh gaz.......right. :whistle
Yes, he is right FT
When i first started buying an extra weeks leave the amount deducted X 52 came to roughly the same as what I would take home on a basic week. After I passed 15 years service, and my annual leave went up to 5 weeks and 2 days the amount deducted was reduced to equal the 3 days extra purchased.

I think some people (not necessarily you FT) are assuming that when you buy extra leave you don't get paid for the week off. Not the case.
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Re: D2D payment

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plainpat wrote:
fishtank wrote:
97gaz wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:If you can afford to take extra leave then you don't need all the £20.60 payment. :Very Happy Simple. :nana
It's been a few years since I started buying annual leave but it was a no brainer for me. Seem to recall that what I was having deducted from my pay was about the same as I got back in pay for the week that I'd bought.
I'm sure someone will come up with the figures
:chuckle :chuckle

You're havin a laugh gaz.......right. :whistle
Yes, he is right FT
When i first started buying an extra weeks leave the amount deducted X 52 came to roughly the same as what I would take home on a basic week. After I passed 15 years service, and my annual leave went up to 5 weeks and 2 days the amount deducted was reduced to equal the 3 days extra purchased.

I think some people (not necessarily you FT) are assuming that when you buy extra leave you don't get paid for the week off. Not the case.

that was how i thought it worked
the deduction was to cover your pay for the time off
or was i thinking too simply?
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Re: D2D payment

Post by fishtank »

custard wrote:
that was how i thought it worked
the deduction was to cover your pay for the time off
or was i thinking too simply?
Nah your spot on custard...i just thought daz was having a laugh.
If you buy a weeks annual leave all that happens is that the remaining 51 weeks pay is divided by 52
So if you earn £350 a week it would be 350X51=17,850 divided by 52=£343.27
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Re: D2D payment

Post by not me »

Its got me thinking.I may have a look into this
an extra week off would suit me