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Who Can Answer This One ......

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Post by AnnexeB »

................ cos our inept Union Reps cant......
So having being told catergorically, that because we`re tied to a Delivery Office, as a CSS operator, we would also be getting the £20 delivery supplement.....it turns out, we`re NOT getting it. Thats fine. So obviously, we`re not tied to a Delivery office. Even tho we operate from within a delivery office, and throw walks up, and throw D2Ds into frames, even tho office staff, who never even see a letter, get the supplement.......all fine.
Si if we`re not tied to a Delivery office, why cant we have the full £1000 bonus ????????
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You need to establish which of the milestones apply to you, I would suggest delivery, but then you would be entitled to the £20. Therefore you could argue for the Mail Centre trigger .

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The £1000 lump sum (pro rata for part time employees) will be paid in two phases.
Phase 1 is a lump sum of £400 to be paid when the Mail Centre is successfully deploying walk sequencing letter mail to the transformation plan for 50% of the Delivery Offices within its catchment area.

The remaining £600 will be paid on the same basis when the Mail Centre is walk sequencing mail for 100% of its Delivery Units.

The £20 supplement is/was a difference of opinion between CWU and RML. CWU belive that you are entitled to it, RML say your not. Question is have CWU made a cock up or are RML up to their old tricks :hmmmm



The final instalment of ColleagueShares will be replaced for employees covered by this agreement, by lump sum payments including additional monies bringing the total to £1000 (pro rata for part time employees). These will be known as Transformation Lump Sums and payment is linked directly to key transformation milestones.
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Isn't this exactly what Dingo mentioned about the CWU and RM still be in discussion about as there are various different roles within Letters that the CWU and RM are finding difficult to pin down to a particular function. http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... nt#p285967" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Perhaps your description of your rep as inept although understandable from your frustration, is a little unfair if indeed even HQ are having trouble deciding.
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Maybe not an inept rep, just an inept HQ :whistle
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Now how could there possibly be any question of confusion after 5 months of negotiating when all the i's are dotted, all the t's crossed, nothing is agreed until EVERYTHING is agreed and yet 9 months down the line after all the chattering talks are STILL going on - perhaps they should get on to that programme with Anne Robinson - no not The Weakest Link, the one about consumer affairs where you pay for something and months later nothing turns up.
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Post by PostieWithTheMostie! »

If your not getting paid the £20.. Its simples ! Don't be touching the D2D's.. until it gets sorted.
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Post by POSTMAN »

It's a DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT and is NOTHING to do with D2D's as such.

Regarding the originl posters question,we're guessing on here that talks are still on going regarding who gets the fecking thing.
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POSTMAN wrote:It's a DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT and is NOTHING to do with D2D's as such.

Regarding the originl posters question,we're guessing on here that talks are still on going regarding who gets the fecking thing.
Well let me set some minds at rest - I get it, don't do a delivery, don't touch D2D AND didn't lose my DSA - oh and I voted NO. :cuppa
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Post by REDLETTER »

Love to see the job description in your office for a CSS operator!

As usual at the bottom it would say.....................As directed! :crazy:

If it just shows the job you do, then prepping frames and chucking in "non-addressed mail" :whistle is a big No No! :arrrghhh
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Apparently it's 2hrs on the machine and then 2hrs doing other work...
dingo wrote: They will be based on 4 night weeks and 2 hours on the machine and two hours on other work
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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POSTMAN wrote:Apparently it's 2hrs on the machine and then 2hrs doing other work...
dingo wrote: They will be based on 4 night weeks and 2 hours on the machine and two hours on other work
Is that Full Time? :chuckle :crazy:
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REDLETTER wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:Apparently it's 2hrs on the machine and then 2hrs doing other work...
dingo wrote: They will be based on 4 night weeks and 2 hours on the machine and two hours on other work
Is that Full Time? :chuckle :crazy:
LOL yes i knew i should of quoted the whole quote...
dingo again wrote:It is true that the running of the CSS walk sequencing machines will be 2300 -0930 or 10.
4 day week apparently.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Post by ronpetetrevchris »

we are being told that the 2hrs on 2hrs off framework has been dumped, now its 2 hrs on and 20 mins break doing something else.
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Post by fishtank »

REDLETTER wrote:Love to see the job description in your office for a CSS operator!

As usual at the bottom it would say.....................As directed! :crazy:

If it just shows the job you do, then prepping frames and chucking in "non-addressed mail" :whistle is a big No No! :arrrghhh
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23:30 to 00:00 – Maintenance tasks
00:00 to 02:40 – Operate sequencing machine
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shift looks good.