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bella
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PHG

Post by bella »

This is my issue - When our office was a 5am start, we all worked the same hours, but then we started at 6am, us posties work 40hrs aweek but phg work 1hr a day less as the callers stilled closed at the same time and when we start at 7 phg will work 2 hrs aday less. They also get d-d allowance and don't deliver any. We have also started longer opening hours on a wed and sat, phg take it turns to do this on o/t along with posties on a rotation basis again on o/t. phg have got it cushy, phg o/t is 1 in 3 , posties o/t 1 in about 10. This clearly needs looking at and made fair.
krussel
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Re: PHG

Post by krussel »

Its strange your ex PHG’s work an hour less each day. Our locker /counter staff start at 6am Mon-Fri and at 5am on Sat's (1hr OT). They finish at 2.20pm weekdays and 12.30pm on sat, the counter stays open till 6.30pm weekdays. They always work thier full hours.

I see what your saying but I am sure your indoor staff would equally argue that Posties are making exta time every day as well. :hmmmm
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Jenny Manchester
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Re: PHG

Post by Jenny Manchester »

bella wrote:This is my issue - When our office was a 5am start, we all worked the same hours, but then we started at 6am, us posties work 40hrs aweek but phg work 1hr a day less as the callers stilled closed at the same time and when we start at 7 phg will work 2 hrs aday less. They also get d-d allowance and don't deliver any. We have also started longer opening hours on a wed and sat, phg take it turns to do this on o/t along with posties on a rotation basis again on o/t. phg have got it cushy, phg o/t is 1 in 3 , posties o/t 1 in about 10. This clearly needs looking at and made fair.
Phgs get away with murder in many offices, they should absorb a bit of the walk outside the office me thinks, they are good at dragging their feet and taking the piss out of posties. the managers are even bigger dickheads letting them away with it, this is because they do a bit of the mangers work from time to time I e. getting driving duties covered and fiddling the balance. they say Royal Mail cannot touch them because they are better than the posties.
come on you managers on here get these phg tossers flagged up at your next chocolate biscuit and coffee meeting :cuppa.
They get £20.60 and are laughing their stones off.
railmail
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Joined: 04 Jun 2010, 19:06
Gender: Male

Re: PHG

Post by railmail »

A-HA, and £20 ex PHG supplement per week.
Big Daz
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Re: PHG

Post by Big Daz »

Both RLE duty holders in my D.O were not with RML when RML abolished the PHG grade, PHGs from back then are delivery posties and another is a DOM at another D.O in the cluster.
pokos27
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Re: PHG

Post by pokos27 »

phg dont make time, they work their full hours and get the crap off the customers
railmail
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Re: PHG

Post by railmail »

Or the W.A.M. Depending on where you work.
dvbuk55
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: PHG

Post by dvbuk55 »

Of course to put it in perspective there are no PHGs, they are OPGs who happen to work indoors either because of:

a. Seniority
b. Capability
c. DDA

Sooooooooo choose one when the next repick comes up for which you may consider yourself suitable.
DGP1
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Re: PHG

Post by DGP1 »

dvbuk55 wrote:Of course to put it in perspective there are no PHGs, they are OPGs who happen to work indoors either because of:

a. Seniority
b. Capability
c. DDA

Sooooooooo choose one when the next repick comes up for which you may consider yourself suitable.
You only got to stay inside because you're sleeping with the boss :nervous :chuckle :chuckle
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TeeferTiger
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Re: PHG

Post by TeeferTiger »

DGP1 wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Of course to put it in perspective there are no PHGs, they are OPGs who happen to work indoors either because of:

a. Seniority
b. Capability
c. DDA

Sooooooooo choose one when the next repick comes up for which you may consider yourself suitable.
You only got to stay inside because you're sleeping with the boss :nervous :chuckle :chuckle
I used to work in the RLE and I wasn't sleeping with the boss?! <shudders at the thought>

And I wasn't in there for options a or c either. Must've been b then.

I always worked my hours (and more), rarely got to take my break and put up with all the sh*te because some of the posties didn't do their job properly.
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dvbuk55
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Re: PHG

Post by dvbuk55 »

DGP1 wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Of course to put it in perspective there are no PHGs, they are OPGs who happen to work indoors either because of:

a. Seniority
b. Capability
c. DDA

Sooooooooo choose one when the next repick comes up for which you may consider yourself suitable.
You only got to stay inside because you're sleeping with the boss :nervous :chuckle :chuckle
No - I was sleeping with the boss, but that ended when the wrinkles overtook the inches, 9 inch 1 wrinkle and now 1 inch and 9 wrinkles. :cry :chuckle :chuckle
mclovin
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Re: PHG

Post by mclovin »

My PHG has his break between 1030-1110, and still leaves the office at 1pm but is paid until 13.55.

No-one knows how the f*** that works.
dvbuk55
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: PHG

Post by dvbuk55 »

mclovin wrote:My PHG has his break between 1030-1110, and still leaves the office at 1pm but is paid until 13.55.

No-one knows how the f*** that works.
Well it works because his line manager allows it and he knows he can get away with it - maybe they should look at making the duty part time and putting the saved hours into delivery - perhaps you should suggest it.
bella
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Re: PHG

Post by bella »

The posties in our office never finish before the phgs, and they always finish at 12.30 at the latest through the week and 11 on a saturday.
mclovin
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Re: PHG

Post by mclovin »

bella wrote:The posties in our office never finish before the phgs, and they always finish at 12.30 at the latest through the week and 11 on a saturday.
How do they confirm specials then???