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39hr week?
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mailmonkey
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39hr week?
Does anyone really think their workload will be reduced to reflect the "shorter working week" so deftly negotiated by the CWU?
Or will it be a reduction in name only. Same work. ?
Or will it be a reduction in name only. Same work. ?
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eian687
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Re: 39hr week?
i think it will be a shorter day on mon-tues same work...............well more with D2D in the work load, and the laspsing.
With no time is being added for D2D in the work load so what chance of a real shorter week.
it should be that we get an hours overtime a week till revisions are done, did that not happen when we moved from 43 hours to 41 1/2 and then from 41 1/2 down to 40.................
With no time is being added for D2D in the work load so what chance of a real shorter week.
it should be that we get an hours overtime a week till revisions are done, did that not happen when we moved from 43 hours to 41 1/2 and then from 41 1/2 down to 40.................
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ronpetetrevchris
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Re: 39hr week?
i was under the impression the reduction in hours was in two parts, 1 when we got walk sequencing in and the rest upon completion of new delivery spec.
The thing is we are due walk sequencing in 6 weeks and they have no plans to reduce time, they have said that it gets reduced in just one block when everything is done. Can anyone clarify please.
The thing is we are due walk sequencing in 6 weeks and they have no plans to reduce time, they have said that it gets reduced in just one block when everything is done. Can anyone clarify please.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: 39hr week?
Its extremely clear in the agreement so hit the manager over the head with page 71 - (Figuratively of course)ronpetetrevchris wrote:i was under the impression the reduction in hours was in two parts, 1 when we got walk sequencing in and the rest upon completion of new delivery spec.
The thing is we are due walk sequencing in 6 weeks and they have no plans to reduce time, they have said that it gets reduced in just one block when everything is done. Can anyone clarify please.
Can't be any clearer than that, which with this agreement is a plus.Shorter Working Week
To be implemented in all Delivery Units in line with the Walk Sequencing revision.
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silverback
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Re: 39hr week?
Dont get overexcited, when it is introduced, it will be a reduction of 12mins a day over a 5 day week which will mean starting 12 mins later. Theory is that when walk sequenced mail arrives it will be quicker to prep thus saving x minutes. Thats what I understand, would be interested if senior union officials know different.
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Postal1
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Re: 39hr week?
So as our office is using walk sequencing already we should be on 39hr week?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Its extremely clear in the agreement so hit the manager over the head with page 71 - (Figuratively of course)ronpetetrevchris wrote:i was under the impression the reduction in hours was in two parts, 1 when we got walk sequencing in and the rest upon completion of new delivery spec.
The thing is we are due walk sequencing in 6 weeks and they have no plans to reduce time, they have said that it gets reduced in just one block when everything is done. Can anyone clarify please.Can't be any clearer than that, which with this agreement is a plus.Shorter Working Week
To be implemented in all Delivery Units in line with the Walk Sequencing revision.
Or as i suspect rm do as they please like the bonus money not being paid even though we've gone through walk sequencing and cdv's?
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: 39hr week?
If you have recently had a revision (post agreement) then yes you should be on the 39 hour week - If you had a WSM revision before ratification then you should be pushing for a new revision taking into account the D2D, call rate, and BSI changes that have happened since, I think this would then entitle you to the 39 hour week.Postal1 wrote:So as our office is using walk sequencing already we should be on 39hr week?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Its extremely clear in the agreement so hit the manager over the head with page 71 - (Figuratively of course)ronpetetrevchris wrote:i was under the impression the reduction in hours was in two parts, 1 when we got walk sequencing in and the rest upon completion of new delivery spec.
The thing is we are due walk sequencing in 6 weeks and they have no plans to reduce time, they have said that it gets reduced in just one block when everything is done. Can anyone clarify please.Can't be any clearer than that, which with this agreement is a plus.Shorter Working Week
To be implemented in all Delivery Units in line with the Walk Sequencing revision.
Or as i suspect rm do as they please like the bonus money not being paid even though we've gone through walk sequencing and cdv's?
Another tack, one that I would not recommend in any way, is to accept the revision you already have, not incorporating the changes and see if the CWU and RM will push for a reduction in your working week.
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mailmonkey
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Re: 39hr week?
^this is what I mean, we'll start 12mins later, but be expected to do the same work.
Will they f@ck knock 12 mins off our workload.
Will they f@ck knock 12 mins off our workload.
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andy2007
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Re: 39hr week?
Who knows?
I thought the same thing when they dropped us from 41.5 hours to 40.
I thought the same thing when they dropped us from 41.5 hours to 40.
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it's just another outlook on Reality!
it's just another outlook on Reality!
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Pat Ostman
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Re: 39hr week?
Postal, same at our office, could even be the same office. Tosspot DSM said no £1000 bonus as we had not hit targets. So the agreement is now officially even shitter.
Using CDV, done WSM
We give they take. Thanks CWU
They even advertise in the Courier as working together. w*****s
Using CDV, done WSM
We give they take. Thanks CWU
They even advertise in the Courier as working together. w*****s
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Big Daz
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Re: 39hr week?
I would suggest HQ clairfy how D.O/MC's that allready have sequnced mail get their £1000.
A simple LTB followed up be nesscary enforcement action should suffice.
A simple LTB followed up be nesscary enforcement action should suffice.
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Pat Ostman
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Re: 39hr week?
Apparently by reaching impossible targets. Shafted again, why we are not out striking I do not know. So word of warning, if you do shared vans, have wsm and 500 d2ds you still will not be rewardedBig Daz wrote:I would suggest HQ clairfy how D.O/MC's that allready have sequnced mail get their £1000.
A simple LTB followed up be nesscary enforcement action should suffice.
No £1000
no 39hr week
Nothing
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silverback
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Re: 39hr week?
They say that walk sequenced mail will knock this off your workload as it is quicker to prep.mailmonkey wrote:^this is what I mean, we'll start 12mins later, but be expected to do the same work.
Will they f@ck knock 12 mins off our workload.
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gazzariah
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Re: 39hr week?
no 1 in 4 sats no 39 hr weeks plenty of in office manager bullies 2hour inward prep before absorbtion
i am absolutely pissed off with this lot could be worse we could have a weak knee union to pay 3 quid
a week to for a part time job of 25 hours or less watch this space.
i am absolutely pissed off with this lot could be worse we could have a weak knee union to pay 3 quid
a week to for a part time job of 25 hours or less watch this space.
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eian687
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Re: 39hr week?
the you put in the D2D and you back to square 1silverback wrote:They say that walk sequenced mail will knock this off your workload as it is quicker to prep.mailmonkey wrote:^this is what I mean, we'll start 12mins later, but be expected to do the same work.
Will they f@ck knock 12 mins off our workload.
extra work in the same time