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Car sharing. Can you take the car home?

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daisy duck
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Car sharing. Can you take the car home?

Post by daisy duck »

Hi. We are supposed to be getting the vans in November but I have heard that we would be able to take the vans home.
Has anybody else heard this or is it just another rumour.
pickaname
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Re: Car sharing. Can you take the car home?

Post by pickaname »

Why would you want to do that?

So you can rush round and finish early?
happymackem
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Post by happymackem »

we were told YES
smileski
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Post by smileski »

yes, this will be possible. The planner at my office has told me that 7 or 8 duties will need to take the van home at our office.
DiamondSmiles
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Post by DiamondSmiles »

Your neighbours are going to love that :evil/mad
knackeredneedadayoff
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Post by knackeredneedadayoff »

i wouldnt im ashamed to work for this crappy firm,wouldnt want to remind neighbours,no im not a snob
AnotherLimey
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Post by AnotherLimey »

knackeredneedadayoff wrote:i wouldnt im ashamed to work for this crappy firm,wouldnt want to remind neighbours,no im not a snob
I'm told all vans are leased and white, i could be wrong though, i have been once before ;liar
NewPostieUK
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Post by NewPostieUK »

I'd love to take a van home. It would save me £20-odd a week, plus wear and tear etc. I'd stop round the corner and fit some 'blanks' with velcro to the sides, to hide the RM logos.
andy2007
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Post by andy2007 »

You'd be better off with magnets than velcro. Just make sure your magnets are covered with material, so they don't scratch the paintwork, or your Manager'll get p***ed off. But you've got a good point. Why put wear and tear on your own car, if RM are willing to provide free transport to and from work? :hmmmm
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reedy
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Post by reedy »

If your using the van to travel to and from work could this be taxable?
Geezer
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Post by Geezer »

We had the fleet guys at mine this week and i asked if we could be taxed if taking a van home , he said that a lot of arguments had been going on about people taking vans home and the implications surrounding it.
He said that on the Tax side he thinks we would have to pay tax and it would be the higher company car tax as we don't pay for the fuel.I also asked what would happen if some little twit vandalised it over night or broke a wing mirror ect and he reckons we would be held responsible, well i said if that's the case who the hell is going to want to take one home and he laughed and said "Only the Idiots" unless RM and the CWU can come to some kind of get Agreement to cover this all off.
SO NO VAN FOR ME THEN............Let RM sort out the overnight Parking.
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

With so many extra vans and no space at delivery offices to park them we will be taking them home :shock: but with certain conditions attached to "stop round the corner" probably won't be an option :sad: and as for 'If your using the van to travel to and from work could this be taxable?' probably not if you say that you would otherwise walk to and from work. :Very Happy
fishtank
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Post by fishtank »

When is there a tax charge on a company van?
Employees pay tax on a company van if they or a member of their family or household make private use of it. If the employee has the van mainly for work journeys (for example, delivering goods or making calls to customers), and the only private use is commuting, there is no tax to pay.

If there is other private use, tax is payable unless this private use is insignificant (see ‘What is insignificant private use?’).
The tax is normally collected through the employee’s Pay As You Earn (PAYE) tax code.

What is insignificant private use?
Private use is insignificant if:
• it is very much the exception to the normal use
• it is intermittent and irregular, and
• it lasts only for short periods of time on odd occasions
during the year.
Examples of insignificant use include an employee who:
• takes an old mattress or other rubbish to the tip once or
twice a year
• regularly makes a slight detour to drop off a child at school
or stops at a newsagent on the way to work
• calls at the dentist on the way home from work.

Examples of use which is not insignificant include an employee who:
• regularly uses the van to do the supermarket shopping
• takes the van away on a week’s holiday
• uses the van outside of work for social activities.

How can an employee show that there is no other private use?
Their employer must be able to show us that this is the case.
This means that an employee could be asked to:
• keep mileage records
• sign an agreement about the use of the van
• have use of the van put into a contract of employment.

What records do employers need to keep?
If an employer considers that there is no tax to pay, they will need to keep sufficient records to show that the employee
has the van mainly for work journeys and that private use is restricted to journeys between home and work. This may include making the conditions clear in employment contracts or asking employees to sign a statement acknowledging company policy on what is allowed and any disciplinary consequences. An employer may also want to keep mileage or other records showing how the vehicles are used to help with this.
If there is tax to pay, employers will need to identify each van used by an employee.
If an employer considers that an employee should pay tax on less than the full amount, they may also need to show:

• if a van is shared, by whom and in what proportions
• periods of 30 or more consecutive days when a van was
incapable of use
• contributions paid by the employee who had private use of
the van
• that private fuel has been fully reimbursed.
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Stormproof
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Post by Stormproof »

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What if I only use the car for
work journeys?

If the only journeys you are permitted to make in the car are
work journeys – for example, making calls to customers – there
is no tax charge unless you actually use it for other, private
purposes as well.
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Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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Geezer
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Post by Geezer »

Nice one fishtank

I will be bringing this into work to show, Now all we need to Know is what sort of agreement RM and CWU come to about any Damage caused to vans over night by Idiots coming home drunk, kids playing football, rideing bikes ect.