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tamis
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ill health retirement

Post by tamis »

im thinkinking of taking ill health retirement,iv got my last meeting next week i`v been offered 34weeks plus 12 nottice but can anyone tell me my holiday entitlement i`v been off since Christmas,do days from before April get carried over and what about April to now?What about Colleague shares?none of this has been mentioned.
citykid5
PARCELFORCE
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Re: ill health retirement

Post by citykid5 »

hi tamis..i got retired due to ill health about 18mths ago.i got mine with imediate pension entitlement..as far as i can remember i didn't get any payment for holiday entitlement,but i didnt have a lot due as i'd used most in the previous year to make up my half pay period,by booking 2 week holiday blocks per month while i was on half pay.......as for the shares i was paid out for any shares that i had held for more than a year..at their currant value..please though bear in mind that i worked for parcelforce as a hgv driver,don't think there should be any difference with the posties....is there no chance that you would be eligable for imediate pension mate?? citykid
gj1023
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Re: ill health retirement

Post by gj1023 »

I have just been IHR with Pension on 28th May . I got just over a grand for Colleague shares despite being told I would get it paid in two parts over next two years.

I also got paid for 3 weeks leave I was owed , while off sick, also because I was on 6 week leave a year , I got paid 3 days leave for every month after and including April , the new leave year.

That was worth nearly 2 and half grand on top off my Pilon
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easter bunny
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Re: ill health retirement

Post by easter bunny »

If you are a CWU member make sure you contact HQ concerning the IHR. Also if your not happy with the conclusion that Royal Mail came too you can appeal .
tamis
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Re: ill health retirement

Post by tamis »

thanks guys,iv been in touch with HQ,I just want to know my entitlement before my meeting,iv took no holidays as i was off sick since Christmas,i think i have 5 days i`m able to carry over before april and any entitlement for this year and no one seems to know about the colleague shares how many i`v got and there value.i just dont want to be diddled you know what they are like.it`ll be a massive relief to get away from this company and start my life again.
numan
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Re: ill health retirement

Post by numan »

You're entitled to carry all your lost holidays over, not just 5 days.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... stice.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
brothermagrew
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Re: ill health retirement

Post by brothermagrew »

Appeal for/against Ill Health Retirement – LS14 Form

Royal Mail
The Union negotiated an agreement with Royal Mail which sets out a procedure under which members could appeal decisions for and against Ill Health Retirement.

Definitions of Ill Health Retirement
“Retirement on ill health grounds with immediate pension” means the cessation of employment as a result of serious physical or mental ill health (not simply a decline in energy or ability) such that, in the opinion of Royal Mail Group or associated employer the member is permanently incapable of:
a. Carrying out his current duties;
b. Carrying out such other duties for the employer as the employer might reasonably expect the member to perform; and
c. Engaging in employment with any other employer of a type which, in the opinion of the present employer, would be reasonable and appropriate for the member.

“Retirement on ill health grounds with lump sum payment” means the cessation of employment as a result of serious physical or mental ill health (not simply a decline in energy or ability) such that, in the opinion of the Royal Mail Group or associated employer, the employee is, for the foreseeable future, incapable of:
a. Carrying out his current duties;
b. Carrying out such other duties for the employer as the employer might reasonably expect the member to perform.

In applying the above criteria permanent incapacity shall mean up to normal retirement age or for at least 10 years from the date of medical opinion, whichever is the soonest. The foreseeable future shall mean a period of at least 9 months from the date of medical opinion.

Benefits accruing from the Scheme are calculated as follows:

Retirement on Ill Health Grounds with Immediate Pension
Active members of the Royal Mail Pension Plan with 5 years service or more and at least two years qualifying service in the Pension Plan meeting the criteria for retirement on ill-health grounds will have their pension based on their full benefits calculated up to their last day of service plus 75% of future pensionable service up to normal retirement age.

Members with over 2 but less than 5 years reckonable service will receive a pension based on their full benefits calculated up to their last day of service.

Retirement on Ill Health Grounds with Lump Sum Payment
Where an employee has at least one year’s service and meets the criteria for retirement on ill health grounds with a lump sum compensation payment, a payment equivalent to 34 weeks’ pay will be made.

Formal Notice Period
Retirement on ill health grounds in both cases will be subject to normal contractual notice of termination of employment or 9 weeks notice whichever is the greater (9 weeks notice will also apply to employees on trial where they are being terminated on ill health grounds). This will be with pay.

For details of the Scheme including the Appeals Procedure please refer to LTB 301/2009 dated 3rd April 2009.

Source: CWU Legal Services Handbook (from memory copy in downloads forum).
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General Mannerheim
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Re: ill health retirement

Post by General Mannerheim »

numan wrote:You're entitled to carry all your lost holidays over, not just 5 days.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... stice.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yeah but Royal Fail still think that it doesn't need to do this as it's not legally binding over here and that's it's upto the local managers discrection,in other words they hope that the person doesn't know his rights and then IF he does that they can pass the buck as normal in planet Royal Fail. :roll:
The fact that there have already been a case Shah V First West Yorkshire LTD that means that if anybody takes them to a tribunal the chances are you will wipe the floor with them.
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
gj1023
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Re: ill health retirement

Post by gj1023 »

You cant be sick and on leave , either one or other.
So if you are sick and due for leave , in the period, then that will be owed to you.
Either when you return to work or as payment if you take IHR .