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When does 39hr week start??
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carldarwen
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When does 39hr week start??
I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
what if your office has had geo-route and Walk Sequencing Revision enforced
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
After most of us are retired then,TrueBlueTerrier wrote:39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
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worktotime
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
can you tell me why it was part of the same pay agreement as the d2ds etc but it doesnt kick in till rm decide to give you it and pts dont lose an hour ? so we will be working an extra hour a week until hell freezes over , will this be back dated ? emm not, dont you think this should have been explained in more detail by the top knobs of the cwu before people voted ?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
If they had, it would not have been voted in, would it. Oh wait a minute...they dangled the old £££ carrot. It would still have been voted in.worktotime wrote: dont you think this should have been explained in more detail by the top knobs of the cwu before people voted ?
What's worse...it was our own money!
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
Because thats what the CWU negotiated and the majority voting accepted (I was a No) You'll have to ask Dave Ward or Billy Hayes why they accepted it not me.worktotime wrote:can you tell me why it was part of the same pay agreement as the d2ds etc but it doesnt kick in till rm decide to give youTrueBlueTerrier wrote:39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
No - But they get an extra 2.5% rise at the time FT lose an hour.worktotime wrote:it and pts dont lose an hour ?
No you'll be working the same albeit with a small pay rise to compensateworktotime wrote: so we will be working an extra hour a week until hell freezes over
Noworktotime wrote:, will this be back dated ? emm not,
Yes the CWU did not send all members a copy of the deal which was wrong, however it was available on here and all of the things you posted about above are in the agreement.worktotime wrote: dont you think this should have been explained in more detail by the top knobs of the cwu before people voted ?
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music4essex
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom
Essex mum
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom
Essex mum
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worktotime
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
what pay rise ? we got told today at wtl that this 39 hour was seperate agreement to the d2ds , so who is right ? cwu or rmTrueBlueTerrier wrote:Because thats what the CWU negotiated and the majority voting accepted (I was a No) You'll have to ask Dave Ward or Billy Hayes why they accepted it not me.worktotime wrote:can you tell me why it was part of the same pay agreement as the d2ds etc but it doesnt kick in till rm decide to give youTrueBlueTerrier wrote:39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.No - But they get an extra 2.5% rise at the time FT lose an hour.worktotime wrote:it and pts dont lose an hour ?No you'll be working the same albeit with a small pay rise to compensateworktotime wrote: so we will be working an extra hour a week until hell freezes overNoworktotime wrote:, will this be back dated ? emm not,Yes the CWU did not send all members a copy of the deal which was wrong, however it was available on here and all of the things you posted about above are in the agreement.worktotime wrote: dont you think this should have been explained in more detail by the top knobs of the cwu before people voted ?
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POSTMAN
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
It is,and both are right,teebs has already answered this...we got told today at wtl that this 39 hour was seperate agreement to the d2ds , so who is right ? cwu or rm
.39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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POSTMAN
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
It seems there are loads who have had it already or forced in by EA,seems to be a grey area.music4essex wrote:We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom
Essex mum
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
The pay rise is for PTs is when FTs go to 39 hours after a WS Revision - (as per agreement, and mentioned in my post replying to yours)worktotime wrote: what pay rise ? we got told today at wtl that this 39 hour was seperate agreement to the d2ds , so who is right ? cwu or rm
Yes the 39 Hours and D2Ds are DIFFERENT PARTS of the same agreement and they only kick in when qualifying conditions are met. As the D2Ds into workload is a national matter it has no effect on the 39 hours/2.5% pay rise part of the agreement. That has local conditions attached (in that it happens when your unit undergoes a Walk Sequencing Revision) so it won't happen at the same time.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
Its the revision for Walk Sequencing that kicks starts the 39 hours/2.5% pay rise so if you already have Walk Sequenced Mail I would push for a revision.music4essex wrote:We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom
Essex mum
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woofwoof
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
we have had bothTrueBlueTerrier wrote:Its the revision for Walk Sequencing that kicks starts the 39 hours/2.5% pay rise so if you already have Walk Sequenced Mail I would push for a revision.music4essex wrote:We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom
Essex mum
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: When does 39hr week start??
woofwoof wrote:we have had bothTrueBlueTerrier wrote:Its the revision for Walk Sequencing that kicks starts the 39 hours/2.5% pay rise so if you already have Walk Sequenced Mail I would push for a revision.music4essex wrote:We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom
Essex mum
You may have been a trial WSM office and indeed might have had a revision but as I understand it you have not had the WSM Revision
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