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When does 39hr week start??

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When does 39hr week start??

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I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
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carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.

what if your office has had geo-route and Walk Sequencing Revision enforced
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.
After most of us are retired then, :crazy:
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.
can you tell me why it was part of the same pay agreement as the d2ds etc but it doesnt kick in till rm decide to give you it and pts dont lose an hour ? so we will be working an extra hour a week until hell freezes over , will this be back dated ? emm not, dont you think this should have been explained in more detail by the top knobs of the cwu before people voted ?
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worktotime wrote: dont you think this should have been explained in more detail by the top knobs of the cwu before people voted ?
If they had, it would not have been voted in, would it. Oh wait a minute...they dangled the old £££ carrot. It would still have been voted in. :arrrghhh

What's worse...it was our own money!
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worktotime wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.
can you tell me why it was part of the same pay agreement as the d2ds etc but it doesnt kick in till rm decide to give you
Because thats what the CWU negotiated and the majority voting accepted (I was a No) You'll have to ask Dave Ward or Billy Hayes why they accepted it not me.
worktotime wrote:it and pts dont lose an hour ?
No - But they get an extra 2.5% rise at the time FT lose an hour.
worktotime wrote: so we will be working an extra hour a week until hell freezes over
No you'll be working the same albeit with a small pay rise to compensate
worktotime wrote:, will this be back dated ? emm not,
No
worktotime wrote: dont you think this should have been explained in more detail by the top knobs of the cwu before people voted ?
Yes the CWU did not send all members a copy of the deal which was wrong, however it was available on here and all of the things you posted about above are in the agreement.
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We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
worktotime wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
carldarwen wrote:I all i was just wondering when the 39hr week starts, as nobody has said anything in my office. And we are now on the d2d thing. and getting another new boss next week. 1 every 3 months here.
39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision.
can you tell me why it was part of the same pay agreement as the d2ds etc but it doesnt kick in till rm decide to give you
Because thats what the CWU negotiated and the majority voting accepted (I was a No) You'll have to ask Dave Ward or Billy Hayes why they accepted it not me.
worktotime wrote:it and pts dont lose an hour ?
No - But they get an extra 2.5% rise at the time FT lose an hour.
worktotime wrote: so we will be working an extra hour a week until hell freezes over
No you'll be working the same albeit with a small pay rise to compensate
worktotime wrote:, will this be back dated ? emm not,
No
worktotime wrote: dont you think this should have been explained in more detail by the top knobs of the cwu before people voted ?
Yes the CWU did not send all members a copy of the deal which was wrong, however it was available on here and all of the things you posted about above are in the agreement.
what pay rise ? we got told today at wtl that this 39 hour was seperate agreement to the d2ds , so who is right ? cwu or rm
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we got told today at wtl that this 39 hour was seperate agreement to the d2ds , so who is right ? cwu or rm
It is,and both are right,teebs has already answered this...
39 Hour week and 2.5% pay rise for PTs starts when your office gets a Walk Sequencing Revision
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music4essex wrote:We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom

Essex mum
It seems there are loads who have had it already or forced in by EA,seems to be a grey area.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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worktotime wrote: what pay rise ? we got told today at wtl that this 39 hour was seperate agreement to the d2ds , so who is right ? cwu or rm
The pay rise is for PTs is when FTs go to 39 hours after a WS Revision - (as per agreement, and mentioned in my post replying to yours)

Yes the 39 Hours and D2Ds are DIFFERENT PARTS of the same agreement and they only kick in when qualifying conditions are met. As the D2Ds into workload is a national matter it has no effect on the 39 hours/2.5% pay rise part of the agreement. That has local conditions attached (in that it happens when your unit undergoes a Walk Sequencing Revision) so it won't happen at the same time. :sad:
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music4essex wrote:We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom

Essex mum
Its the revision for Walk Sequencing that kicks starts the 39 hours/2.5% pay rise so if you already have Walk Sequenced Mail I would push for a revision.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
music4essex wrote:We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom

Essex mum
Its the revision for Walk Sequencing that kicks starts the 39 hours/2.5% pay rise so if you already have Walk Sequenced Mail I would push for a revision.
we have had both
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woofwoof wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
music4essex wrote:We have had WSM in the office for the last 3weeks and D2D started this week no mention of 39 hour week has been
discussed or implemented, If we have the weekly huddle do you think I should mention it, though I think I am making a bad name for myself as I keep on haveing a go at the dim dom

Essex mum
Its the revision for Walk Sequencing that kicks starts the 39 hours/2.5% pay rise so if you already have Walk Sequenced Mail I would push for a revision.
we have had both
:shock: + AFAIK no walk sequencing revisions have happened as the input details and data sets have not been agreed with the CWU and the workshops are happening or about to happen.

You may have been a trial WSM office and indeed might have had a revision but as I understand it you have not had the WSM Revision
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