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Traffic Figures

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theboropostie
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Traffic Figures

Post by theboropostie »

Looking at the traffic for our DO for the first 7 weeks...

Up 8% on last year so far - 600,000 more items than this time last year!
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by rhino49 »

theboropostie wrote:Looking at the traffic for our DO for the first 7 weeks...

Up 8% on last year so far - 600,000 more items than this time last year!
That will be due to falling mail volumes :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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persil33
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by persil33 »

our manager loves to put the figures up every day to show how much the mail has dropped. but suprise suprise he has put nothing up for the last ten weeks as the mail is up 10% from the same time last year.
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Post by fishtank »

persil33 wrote:our manager loves to put the figures up every day to show how much the mail has dropped. but suprise suprise he has put nothing up for the last ten weeks as the mail is up 10% from the same time last year.

Are you lot trying to wake up Tman?
Traffic figures only go one way....down.
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Night Tonic
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by Night Tonic »

And how much of that traffic is DSA :crazy:
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chunk
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by chunk »

what Betelgeuse is trying to say is that volume is up but revenue is down because dsa is delivered at at a loss.
how smug he must be feeling!
most of us understand that . Its volume we postman have to deliver and its volume thats not falling.
if royal mail want to be honest with the public they should talk about why revenue is down .
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by pinstripe »

Night Tonic wrote:And how much of that traffic is DSA :crazy:
We've been told on here often enough that DSA is included in traffic figures. If my office is anything to go by, DSA is about 70% of letters and flats!

We also have the traffic figures put up (or made up) on a board, but I'm not sure if the numbers quoted are meant to be for individual walks or the entire office.
Last week we had a very heavy Tuesday, I had 5/6 items for most addresses, every walk was the same. Wednesday was a lot lighter, but according to the traffic figures we had 20,000 more on the Wednesday than the Tuesday. I think they make them suit their needs. Surprisingly, Tuesday is a short day (1.00pm finish for F/T) and Wednesday is later.
Dracula's Apprentice
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by Dracula's Apprentice »

Last week, we had a really light mon and tue, then really heavy wed to fri. I think traffic figures are a contentious issue due to the fact that they are mostly averages based on weight. There is no easy way of recording accurate figures, but weighing has ceased in my office, since the figures now come straight from the MC. I think if RM had no issues with accuracy, then we'd still be weighing yorks as soon as they roll off the van, lets face it, its not very time consuming. I personally don't trust the figures ;liar and with regards to revenue and DSA, well as far as I'm concerned my workload is the same regardless. Sometimes I feel like I work for TNT, and who knows, maybe soon we all will :sad:
chunk
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by chunk »

we weigh hardly anything in our office.
pouches almost never
hcts rarely.
people under pressure just want to get out the door .
and as you say the weight is rising all the time. RM
are complicit in possible health and safety breaches by turning a blind eye
and not enforcing the weighing of loads.
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london sub
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by london sub »

chunk wrote:we weigh hardly anything in our office.
pouches almost never
hcts rarely.
people under pressure just want to get out the door .
and as you say the weight is rising all the time. RM
are complicit in possible health and safety breaches by turning a blind eye
and not enforcing the weighing of loads.
The sad truth is tell me one office in the uk that follows the guide lines on weighing bags, and the answer would probably be none.

As you said chunk, people within the office are just wanting to get out the door as quick as possible. But by not doing the job properly, especially when it comes to not weighing bags might put yourself at risk. The worst case scenario is having an accident on your walk, dom weighs your bag back at the office, you wouldn't have any sympathy or support, it would just be a case of its your own fault, you won't get any sick pay.
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by motherhubbard »

cow post wrote:
The sad truth is tell me one office in the uk that follows the guide lines on weighing bags, and the answer would probably be none.

As you said chunk, people within the office are just wanting to get out the door as quick as possible. But by not doing the job properly, especially when it comes to not weighing bags might put yourself at risk. The worst case scenario is having an accident on your walk, dom weighs your bag back at the office, you wouldn't have any sympathy or support, it would just be a case of its your own fault, you won't get any sick pay.
Injuring yourself would be an act of gross stupidity.
Injuring a colleague would be an act of gross negligence and should be a sackable offence.
Weigh all bags.
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smelly_cat_lady
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by smelly_cat_lady »

Totally agree. Weigh all bags and if you find one over weight, start breaking it down in the vicinity of the scales and watch the managers faces :chuckle :chuckle

Seriously tho, do it, its a H&S issue for them and us
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by fishtank »

smelly_cat_lady wrote:Totally agree. Weigh all bags and if you find one over weight, start breaking it down in the vicinity of the scales and watch the managers faces :chuckle :chuckle

Seriously tho, do it, its a H&S issue for them and us
From the new guidlines on bag weights....
It was found that 100% self recording of delivery pouch weights wasn't a sustainable solution, and wasn't ensuring consistent compliance to pouch weight limits as staff in many Delivery Offices inspected were still taking out overweight pouches. HSE Inspectors found that no checks on pouch weights were being undertaken in some Delivery Offices and in others where pouches were weighed and found to be excessive no action was taken. Where record sheets were kept, Pouch Weights didn't always tally with record sheets or record sheets were incomplete or not used in some locations.

As such a pouch weight sampling strategy and checking system was developed which went away from individuals weighing and recording their own pouch weights on record sheets and instead introduced a random sampling process whereby typically, sampling will be carried out by management on a daily basis with in the range of 5 -15% of all the walks at each Delivery Office. Under the process, as a minimum, the DOM will ensure that a sample of 5 -15% of all Delivery Rounds or a minimum 2 - 4 full delivery walks per day will have all pouches weighed, checked and recorded on the new pro-forma provided by the Delivery Office Manager or the delivery person's immediate supervisor. All pouch weights on the randomly selected delivery rounds will be recorded on a new pro-forma (copy attached). This process will take place in each Delivery Office and non-compliance with the weight limits can lead to a 1 to 1 meeting between the DOM and individual in order to find solutions or alternatively a general talk to the Delivery Office staff at a 'Work Time Listening and Learning Session' (WTLL) which can take place to discuss compliance. This will in turn be subject to audit check by the Regional Safety Director's team and will also be subject to scrutiny by LA and HSE Inspectors, should an Inspection be carried out.
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by clashcityrocker »

Under the process, as a minimum, the DOM..........

So on top of this any bags that are close to the 11kg should be checked to ensure they are not overweight.
Given that most people don't have a set of scales in their forearm, and couldn't tell a 9kg bag from a 12kg bag, nearly all bags should still be weighed but it is no longer necessary to record all weights.
That's how I read it. Postmen should still look after their drivers and ensure all drop bags conform to the new matrix.
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Re: Traffic Figures

Post by plainpat »

clashcityrocker wrote:Under the process, as a minimum, the DOM..........

So on top of this any bags that are close to the 11kg should be checked to ensure they are not overweight.
Given that most people don't have a set of scales in their forearm, and couldn't tell a 9kg bag from a 12kg bag, nearly all bags should still be weighed but it is no longer necessary to record all weights.
That's how I read it. Postmen should still look after their drivers and ensure all drop bags conform to the new matrix.
This would be the same drivers who twist their bodies sideways whilst flinging the bags into the back of their vans :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh

(Not denigrating your points ccr - just saying)