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Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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:sad: Yes, this could cause major problems for both you and your friend. Going back to the days of second deliveries, some guys used to swap a handful of letters so they would finish off nearer their own homes. because they had not notified the Managment, they lost their jobs. If mail goes missing etc, who do you think would get the blame?
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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If it's a deal that is good for both of you,clear it with the manager so your back is covered.

But,thinking more am not sure what would happen if you had an AOD on his part of the walk.

But,thinking more again,part of P&M gives you the flexibility to swap days off ect so that could come into it,also loads of peeps pay others to do full duties as well which RM are aware about.
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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POSTMAN wrote:If it's a deal that is good for both of you,clear it with the manager so your back is covered.

But,thinking more am not sure what would happen if you had an AOD on his part of the walk.

But,thinking more again,part of P&M gives you the flexibility to swap days off ect so that could come into it,also loads of peeps pay others to do full duties as well which RM are aware about.
Go on pmn how do they manage two 10 hour duties in a single day :hmmmm
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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dvbuk55 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:If it's a deal that is good for both of you,clear it with the manager so your back is covered.

But,thinking more am not sure what would happen if you had an AOD on his part of the walk.

But,thinking more again,part of P&M gives you the flexibility to swap days off ect so that could come into it,also loads of peeps pay others to do full duties as well which RM are aware about.
Go on pmn how do they manage two 10 hour duties in a single day :hmmmm
I wouldn't know,but i'm talking about bobs day off and freddie wants a day off so asks bob to do it for cash.
When that happens freddie gets an uncle called bob. :left: :Very Happy
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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POSTMAN wrote: I wouldn't know,but i'm talking about bobs day off and freddie wants a day off so asks bob to do it for cash.
When that happens freddie gets an uncle called bob. :left: :Very Happy
I hope the tax man doesn't trawl this site. :chuckle
On a more serious note your right about AODs on a walk you are not officially covering.
RM may know about it but they WILL deny liability if it's a private agreement.
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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fishtank wrote:
POSTMAN wrote: I wouldn't know,but i'm talking about bobs day off and freddie wants a day off so asks bob to do it for cash.
When that happens freddie gets an uncle called bob. :left: :Very Happy
I hope the tax man doesn't trawl this site. :chuckle
On a more serious note your right about AODs on a walk you are not officially covering.
RM may know about it but they WILL deny liability if it's a private agreement.
Tax would have already been paid from the original earnings.
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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pickaname wrote:
fishtank wrote:
POSTMAN wrote: I wouldn't know,but i'm talking about bobs day off and freddie wants a day off so asks bob to do it for cash.
When that happens freddie gets an uncle called bob. :left: :Very Happy
I hope the tax man doesn't trawl this site. :chuckle
On a more serious note your right about AODs on a walk you are not officially covering.
RM may know about it but they WILL deny liability if it's a private agreement.
Tax would have already been paid from the original earnings.
Doesn't matter,if i pay somebody to do something for me he/she has to pay tax on those earnings.
It doesn't matter whether i have already paid tax when i earned it. :hmmmm
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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If the postie is looking to get away before his normal finishing time he could end up being coded, whatever the circumstances, with 'abandonment of duty'. If you speak with the DOM and he rejects the proposal, and you continue, there is the risk of you both being coded as he might (a big might!) just take drag himself away from his precious cup of coffee and check. :left:

Highly unlikely that a DOM would be around so late on a Saturday I know, but there is always one looking for brownie points from the DSM :d'oh!
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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This sort of thing happens when someone wants half a sat off when they want to get away early for footie. Its always passed by the manager and he his fine about as long as he knows whats going on.
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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I think as long as the post is getting delivered and you let your DOM know what's happening it should be ok. As far as he's concerned he's not paying out more for ot and the run is getting done. :Very Happy :Very Happy
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Re: Doing part of a mate's walk. (Not lapsing!)

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A while back i paid one fella to do an hours work and four others took out bundles for me for free, told the manager and i had to record who was doing what and get them to sign for the part of the duty they were covering. It was a bit long winded but other than that it was no problem and the manager needed to know who was doing what in case of IB and problems with those parts of the duty on that day.
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