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Compulsory upgrade to Full time from part time

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realitybites
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Compulsory upgrade to Full time from part time

Post by realitybites »

Just wondering if RM can force you to go from a 25 hour contract to a full time contract, if I were in an office that was to run on the fact all employees were full time, what would happen to part timers.
Ahebban
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Re: Compulsory upgrade to Full time from part time

Post by Ahebban »

The new Agreement - '2010 and Beyond' - has the following text which I believe is applicable to your question ...

... The mix of full time and part time is planned to be around three quarters full time and one quarter part time by 2013. The exact ratio will vary locally depending on the current local mix, needs and employee preferences. Full time employees will retain full time status unless they volunteer to move to part time hours. Part time employees will be entitled to retain their existing contractual hours if they wish.

Like the majority of this agreement it is open to interpretation. For example the word 'needs' in the second sentence could be interpreted as 'operational needs/requirements' at a particular Unit. This in effect allows options if you were to transfer to an 'all full-time' Unit as a part-time employee. 'Operational need' could be argued as a means to upgrade your status from part-time to full time as a condition of your transfer. Equally, you can argue that the Unit you are transferring to must accommodate your part-time status to allow employee preference to be catered for.

I do not envy the task ahead for my fellow Reps as this Agreement, taken as a whole, is going to take the patience of a saint to unravel and deploy in Units across the country.
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bogstandard
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Re: Compulsory upgrade to Full time from part time

Post by bogstandard »

while you are employed for 25 hours this is all that they may expect of you
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bogstandard
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Re: Compulsory upgrade to Full time from part time

Post by bogstandard »

Ahebban wrote:The new Agreement - '2010 and Beyond' - has the following text which I believe is applicable to your question ...

... The mix of full time and part time is planned to be around three quarters full time and one quarter part time by 2013. The exact ratio will vary locally depending on the current local mix, needs and employee preferences. Full time employees will retain full time status unless they volunteer to move to part time hours. Part time employees will be entitled to retain their existing contractual hours if they wish.

Like the majority of this agreement it is open to interpretation. For example the word 'needs' in the second sentence could be interpreted as 'operational needs/requirements' at a particular Unit. This in effect allows options if you were to transfer to an 'all full-time' Unit as a part-time employee. 'Operational need' could be argued as a means to upgrade your status from part-time to full time as a condition of your transfer. Equally, you can argue that the Unit you are transferring to must accommodate your part-time status to allow employee preference to be catered for.

I do not envy the task ahead for my fellow Reps as this Agreement, taken as a whole, is going to take the patience of a saint to unravel and deploy in Units across the country.
there are many, amny tiny DO's and SPDO's that ONLY employ pt, hence the local variation
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pyphon
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Re: Compulsory upgrade to Full time from part time

Post by pyphon »

i'd love to be forced onto a full time contract...
tomtom1dk
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Re: Compulsory upgrade to Full time from part time

Post by tomtom1dk »

Me to I'm part time 31 hours!!! but cant remember the last time i done 31 hours doing 40 hours every week and more... been doing it for years :crazy: but they still wont make me full time :evil/mad :evil/mad