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A question for the yes voters
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numan
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A question for the yes voters
If after all the talks this offer had been rejected by the PEC. Would you have still thought it was a good deal and been angry that it wasn't accepted? Or did you only vote for it because HQ recommended it and were telling you there's no plan B?
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The truth!
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Re: A question for the yes voters
Personally I know the negotators been through a lot of differcults disputes with them and when they say to me that there is no more money to be had then yes I do believe them.numan wrote:If after all the talks this offer had been rejected by the PEC. Would you have still thought it was a good deal and been angry that it wasn't accepted? Or did you only vote for it because HQ recommended it and were telling you there's no plan B?
If you really look at the situration do you accept that the Government has loaned Royal Mail over a billion pounds to by walk sequencing machines ? If you do accept that there is only two workplan models for walk sequencing the DUTCH model which is to walk sequence 100% of the mail at once and then that work will be available from 11 in the morning mean mainly a part time job. Or the UK model which is 60% sequenced during the night and 40% from 0600 in the morning mean a 75/25 model.
Now whether you accept this agreement or not that was always going to be the case . You either accept this agreement as the a good way to tackle automation or you face automation without an agreement.
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numan
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Re: A question for the yes voters
Speaking for myself, more money would've obviously been nice but that wasn't what last year's dispute was about. I wanted an agreement that would protect and improve members conditions. As far as providing safeguards, some of the wording in the deal is quite frankly pathetic and not worth a light. I'm sick of hearing "well we were there, you weren't, we know what these words mean", this is quite an idiotic statement to make and all very amateurish.The truth! wrote:Personally I know the negotators been through a lot of differcults disputes with them and when they say to me that there is no more money to be had then yes I do believe them.numan wrote:If after all the talks this offer had been rejected by the PEC. Would you have still thought it was a good deal and been angry that it wasn't accepted? Or did you only vote for it because HQ recommended it and were telling you there's no plan B?
If you really look at the situration do you accept that the Government has loaned Royal Mail over a billion pounds to by walk sequencing machines ? If you do accept that there is only two workplan models for walk sequencing the DUTCH model which is to walk sequence 100% of the mail at once and then that work will be available from 11 in the morning mean mainly a part time job. Or the UK model which is 60% sequenced during the night and 40% from 0600 in the morning mean a 75/25 model.
Now whether you accept this agreement or not that was always going to be the case . You either accept this agreement as the a good way to tackle automation or you face automation without an agreement.
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Mercian
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Re: A question for the yes voters
The truth! wrote:
Personally I know the negotators been through a lot of differcults disputes with them and when they say to me that there is no more money to be had then yes I do believe them.
I did add more but