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well done to the 60'000

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collectionsarebest
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well done to the 60'000

Post by collectionsarebest »

now i dont post here often but do have a good read every other day but just wanted to get this off my chest
well done to the alomost 60'000 of our so called comrades who couldnt even be bothered to put a cross in a box and take the envelope to a letter box.
it dont matter to me weather you vote yes or no just so long as you do, great message those twats have just sent to the management and the union. No wonder they didnt negotiate us a better deal cos the majority of the people that the 'deal' would affect wouldnt even bother to vote on it.
They could of pushed through practically anything they wanted so i suppose we are lucky with what we did get.
Lets enjoy our £300 after the tax and prepare for the fun to start
Andy85
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by Andy85 »

To be honest mate i still havent got my ballot paper and i know of a few others who didnt also
ziko
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by ziko »

collectionsarebest wrote:now i dont post here often but do have a good read every other day but just wanted to get this off my chest
well done to the alomost 60'000 of our so called comrades who couldnt even be bothered to put a cross in a box and take the envelope to a letter box.
it dont matter to me weather you vote yes or no just so long as you do, great message those twats have just sent to the management and the union. No wonder they didnt negotiate us a better deal cos the majority of the people that the 'deal' would affect wouldnt even bother to vote on it.
They could of pushed through practically anything they wanted so i suppose we are lucky with what we did get.
Lets enjoy our £300 after the tax and prepare for the fun to start
In the last Union ballot vote our office in the city had it was discovered that our manager (no longer here) had hid every single one of our votes....
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borders
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by borders »

unbelievable how 60000 people cant be bothered to vote on their on pay and conditions, hang your heads in shame.....
"why should it just be the bankers, politicians and the idle rich who get all the best things ? we demand a standard of living for our members that enables them to share in the fine wines and times that the likes of Cameron and his Eton buddies take for granted " - the late great Bob Crow RIP.
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by lazyjack »

How they can still go ahead with this considering a good few people never got their ballot papers is beyond me :so there
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RelocatedRick
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by RelocatedRick »

I have said this before and i will say it again; we still live in a world where in many countries people are imprisoned and executed for trying to even form a trade union, let alone have a vote on anything,

so those idle w*nkers that cannot be bothered to put a cross on a piece of paper and post it for free in a br envelope, should be very, very ashamed.
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by MinisterofCucumber »

Maybe they didn't vote because they were confused.

Management and union were telling them to vote 'yes' but could not provide decent arguments why. The people providing the good reasons to vote 'no' were not officials.
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borders
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by borders »

MinisterofCucumber wrote:Maybe they didn't vote because they were confused.

Management and union were telling them to vote 'yes' but could not provide decent arguments why. The people providing the good reasons to vote 'no' were not officials.
confused my arse , nobody told me how to vote especially management . my manager would not dream of telling me or anyone else for that matter how to vote. bunch of lazy , bone idle numpties more like.
"why should it just be the bankers, politicians and the idle rich who get all the best things ? we demand a standard of living for our members that enables them to share in the fine wines and times that the likes of Cameron and his Eton buddies take for granted " - the late great Bob Crow RIP.
proper postie
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Re: well done to the 60'000

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The apathy of our members is staggering.It's hitting you in the pocket and you can't be bothered to lift a pen and mark x?
The truth!
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by The truth! »

MinisterofCucumber wrote:Maybe they didn't vote because they were confused.

Management and union were telling them to vote 'yes' but could not provide decent arguments why. The people providing the good reasons to vote 'no' were not officials.
Thats a load of rubbish , there were arguements on both sides of the fence from officials / local reps , CWU HQs.

The fact is that every unit rep in the country had the chance to attend a meeting with the negotators . In addition there were dozens of Branch meetings where members had the opportunity to ask questions and make their point. Plus there were loads of membership meetings.

Looking at some on this site you would think that Royal Mail chat run the union . It does not . It serves a purpose but has a fraction of active members that the union has.

The reality is that members accepted that if we are going to have future full time jobs you had to accept the deal which bought more traffic into measured workload.

Those who were arguiing against the deal came from 4 different camps 1. those who are anti headquaters on everything , 2 those who were standing to lose from the supplement and those who were concerned about delivery spans , Saturdays and that Royal Mail would not build a new relationship.

The majority who voted to accept the agreement decided that this agreement provided them with a future.
mailman71
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by mailman71 »

why is everybody suprised,over the years i've seen guys getting their various voting papers and then just lobbing them in the bin without even looking at them.
borders
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by borders »

it would be interesting to know how many people bother to vote on who sits on the NEC. how important is that , people who have the opportunity to steer the direction of our union no less.
"why should it just be the bankers, politicians and the idle rich who get all the best things ? we demand a standard of living for our members that enables them to share in the fine wines and times that the likes of Cameron and his Eton buddies take for granted " - the late great Bob Crow RIP.
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Re: well done to the 60'000

Post by brothermagrew »

Cmon now brothers let's stop being economical with the truth, the figure quoted was just over 53,000 who never bothered to vote and for the record I to voted NO but like it or not democracy has spoken and as a side issue being a representative on health and safety matters I will continue to stay in the CWU.
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disheartened
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Re: well done to the 60'000

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The fact that so many failed to vote is woeful,the excuse "i did'nt get my voting papers"is no excuse,you should of been on the phone to HQ,to get one out to you ages ago,i moved less than 2 months ago and got one of my reps to email HQ to amend my records so the vote came to my new address,as for just could'nt be bothered to vote :no no
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Re: well done to the 60'000

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disheartened wrote:The fact that so many failed to vote is woeful,the excuse "i did'nt get my voting papers"is no excuse,you should of been on the phone to HQ,to get one out to you ages ago,i moved less than 2 months ago and got one of my reps to email HQ to amend my records so the vote came to my new address,as for just could'nt be bothered to vote :no no
You don't even need to email HQ now.
You can change your details on the CWU website. :cuppa
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