OK! Time out!!
We expect an emotional response to today’s result on the forum, because it is a forum and that is ok.
The calls for coming out of the union are also a knee jerk reaction. Some offices have not had a good deal because the previous agreements were not honoured. If anyone cannot see that then they had better wake up!
Those offices that are active have already planned their call rates, spans, longer Saturdays already. Good.
However take a minute to realise that there are a lot of offices who have been taken advantage of. Part timers who are, in the main, not really part timers. Check their aggregates on the e-docket.9 times out of ten you will see their overtime equals 40 hours.
We need to help those offices, HQ need to demonstrate its effort on this deal. The yes vote is not enough.HQ need to be here for the long haul. Start to finish.
I do realise that areas have branches. I am not sure if members realise this.
Area reps and divisional reps DO exist. It is up to HQ to “shake some attitudes” out there.
A lot of effort was put into the road shows. It does not stop there. There is so much more to do. In fact the road shows were the easy part.
Full involvement will expose the rogue element. Remember. Start to Finish.
Also do not think that “stopping your subs” will gain anything. This deal will not work if the collective effort is weaker.
Stop and think. Don’t answer this post just for the sake of it, it is pointless!
A non-union workforce will never have a voice! Check your history.
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Time Out!!
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mclovin
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The Union is part of RM now, its in the freakin agreement.
RM subsidises it own Union. You couldnt make it up.
THAT mon amigo, is what makes the Union weak, NOT the members.
RM subsidises it own Union. You couldnt make it up.
THAT mon amigo, is what makes the Union weak, NOT the members.
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drb
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They have been skint for quite a while now.We just did not know about it! We do now! That is the difference.We have had the chance to go through the books! Look if they don't want to play ball,shove the agreement under their nose and say,"I am here to make it work,are you?"
Stop standing on the peripherals and help your local rep.
Stop standing on the peripherals and help your local rep.
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DirtyHarry
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And knowing that the CWU is firmly in the pocket of RM, a RM manager says, "I'm here to make it work best for RM, you and your petty concerns don't come into it," What then, eh?drb wrote: Look if they don't want to play ball,shove the agreement under their nose and say,"I am here to make it work,are you?"
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mclovin
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I will be helping him, I am in on the revision process, and I will be doing my damndest to get the best for everyone in my office, whatever their personal choices may be.
Will RM play ball?? I very much doubt that. But NOTHING gets signed off unless everyones happy.
Will RM play ball?? I very much doubt that. But NOTHING gets signed off unless everyones happy.
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gb93
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It is impossible to please everybody.
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
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mclovin
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Well in that case i'll do my best to accomodate everyone.
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drb
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It is our business.It is our service. Nothing will work unless WE are on board.Tell them that! Tell them that whaever you executively do WILL NEVER work.Why? Because you do not have the workforce on your side.
Tell them that last years executive action cost them much more then they had aimed to achieve.
Listen! ACAS are involved here and the 3 golden rules will apply :
Stress
Fatigue
Motivation
In no document,whether the national agreement or BSi is the word "budget".
They tried and failed with the "budget" issue,so we must have done something right collectively. Do not look at your walks now.They are wrong.I have seen your call rates.They are based on budget.The sequencing machines only shave off 19 minutes.They forget that flats and packets are the growth.All we have to do is convince ourselves of 2 things :
The mail has changed
Public service
You also have a live testing agreement.The last major meeting I had with my DOM he stated,"There will be no testing of walks". Well that is gone now because we fought for it.It is HERE,and NOW! Let us do something about it...NOW!
Tell them that last years executive action cost them much more then they had aimed to achieve.
Listen! ACAS are involved here and the 3 golden rules will apply :
Stress
Fatigue
Motivation
In no document,whether the national agreement or BSi is the word "budget".
They tried and failed with the "budget" issue,so we must have done something right collectively. Do not look at your walks now.They are wrong.I have seen your call rates.They are based on budget.The sequencing machines only shave off 19 minutes.They forget that flats and packets are the growth.All we have to do is convince ourselves of 2 things :
The mail has changed
Public service
You also have a live testing agreement.The last major meeting I had with my DOM he stated,"There will be no testing of walks". Well that is gone now because we fought for it.It is HERE,and NOW! Let us do something about it...NOW!
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gb93
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Very noble of you mclovin and i hope your office shows their gratitude towards you for all the effort you put in.
I bet you get no bitchin at all
But honestly good luck hope you get best you can out of this deal for your members, just dont expect any thanks at end of it.
I bet you get no bitchin at all
But honestly good luck hope you get best you can out of this deal for your members, just dont expect any thanks at end of it.
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
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drb
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I REALLY hate to say it..but our worst enemies are the actual membership.If you are a rep..you will know EXACTLY what i meanBut honestly good luck hope you get best you can out of this deal for your members, just dont expect any thanks at end of it.
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Big Daz
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drb wrote:I REALLY hate to say it..but our worst enemies are the actual membership.If you are a rep..you will know EXACTLY what i meanBut honestly good luck hope you get best you can out of this deal for your members, just dont expect any thanks at end of it.
The perfect example is what I saw in Tesco at 10.55 am today
A CWU mbr who voted no wanderring around Tesco finished for the day, starts at 5am, must have left the D.O at 10.50 am.
Add on the break he hasnt had and thats 6hours 30 mins day, so around two hours J and F made if not more!!!
Just another day in the life of reality at my D.O!!!