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The Next Election Leaflets Delivered Are Free.

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Jenny Manchester
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The Next Election Leaflets Delivered Are Free.

Post by Jenny Manchester »

I'm making a nice little butty with the Election leaflets at the moment, but the next General Election in 4 years time all the leaflets will be treated as the DTD. We won't get a tap for delivering them. The RM gets the lot.... Thanks to all the idiots that voted yes. are you still going to come in early now and give them back your £400 as soon as possible...
venger
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Post by venger »

Jenny Manchester wrote:I'm making a nice little butty with the Election leaflets at the moment, but the next General Election in 4 years time all the leaflets will be treated as the DTD. We won't get a tap for delivering them. The RM gets the lot.... Thanks to all the idiots that voted yes. are you still going to come in early now and give them back your £400 as soon as possible...
Bloody hell, I didn't even think of the election stuff. (I voted NO anyhoo)
Gah. That's an even bigger pay loss.
coxie
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Post by coxie »

no election material is treated different, we will still get paid for them in future
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

A hung parliament and the next election might be in 4 months not 4 years :Very Happy Will the paymemts have stopped by then ? :shock:
Martin Walsh
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Post by Martin Walsh »

Lounge Lizard wrote:A hung parliament and the next election might be in 4 months not 4 years :Very Happy Will the paymemts have stopped by then ? :shock:
No doubt we will be bombarded with scare stories but no the election agreement remains. Yes Royal Mail do want to re negotiate it due to the fact that downstream access did not exist when the election agreement was orginally agreed.

However Royal Mail wanted it to be inclcuded into workload and offered a £1 per week in the ornginal talks. The union rejected this but quite how Royal Mail can introduce it into workload an event which comes around every few years I dont know. My guess is that they would have to pay overtime.

But to answer the orignal question the Election agreement still holds the field.
dvbuk55
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Post by dvbuk55 »

dingo wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:A hung parliament and the next election might be in 4 months not 4 years :Very Happy Will the paymemts have stopped by then ? :shock:
No doubt we will be bombarded with scare stories but no the election agreement remains. Yes Royal Mail do want to re negotiate it due to the fact that downstream access did not exist when the election agreement was orginally agreed.

However Royal Mail wanted it to be inclcuded into workload and offered a £1 per week in the ornginal talks. The union rejected this but quite how Royal Mail can introduce it into workload an event which comes around every few years I dont know. My guess is that they would have to pay overtime.

But to answer the orignal question the Election agreement still holds the field.
What a dream world you do live in Dingo, the Election agreement still holds the field BUT Royal Mail are still refusing to pay you should have said and Bob Gibson has already sent a nasty email - you cannot make them pay, you cannot make them adhere to a single statement in any agreement. Despite popular thinking dingo, the mouth is NOT mightier than the sword.
Martin Walsh
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Post by Martin Walsh »

dvbuk55 wrote:
dingo wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:A hung parliament and the next election might be in 4 months not 4 years :Very Happy Will the paymemts have stopped by then ? :shock:
No doubt we will be bombarded with scare stories but no the election agreement remains. Yes Royal Mail do want to re negotiate it due to the fact that downstream access did not exist when the election agreement was orginally agreed.

However Royal Mail wanted it to be inclcuded into workload and offered a £1 per week in the ornginal talks. The union rejected this but quite how Royal Mail can introduce it into workload an event which comes around every few years I dont know. My guess is that they would have to pay overtime.

But to answer the orignal question the Election agreement still holds the field.
What a dream world you do live in Dingo, the Election agreement still holds the field BUT Royal Mail are still refusing to pay you should have said and Bob Gibson has already sent a nasty email - you cannot make them pay, you cannot make them adhere to a single statement in any agreement. Despite popular thinking dingo, the mouth is NOT mightier than the sword.
My understanding is that the areas which flagged up the issue with Polling cards and DSA have been resolved certainly the offices I dealt with have now. May be you need to get onto the area rep.
Geezer
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Post by Geezer »

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Geezer
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Post by Geezer »

dvbuk55 wrote:
dingo wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:A hung parliament and the next election might be in 4 months not 4 years :Very Happy Will the paymemts have stopped by then ? :shock:
No doubt we will be bombarded with scare stories but no the election agreement remains. Yes Royal Mail do want to re negotiate it due to the fact that downstream access did not exist when the election agreement was orginally agreed.

However Royal Mail wanted it to be inclcuded into workload and offered a £1 per week in the ornginal talks. The union rejected this but quite how Royal Mail can introduce it into workload an event which comes around every few years I dont know. My guess is that they would have to pay overtime.

But to answer the orignal question the Election agreement still holds the field.
What a dream world you do live in Dingo, the Election agreement still holds the field BUT Royal Mail are still refusing to pay you should have said and Bob Gibson has already sent a nasty email - you cannot make them pay, you cannot make them adhere to a single statement in any agreement. Despite popular thinking dingo, the mouth is NOT mightier than the sword.

You took the words right out of my mouth there dvb, and Dingo i got on to my Branch sent them the Agreement ( as they never had a copy too hand apparently ) they sent me an email to say they had passed it onto division, who have got onto HQ.
That was 2 weeks ago and branch emailed me again yesterday and said they were still waiting for a reply GO FIGURE............!
tiggle
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Post by tiggle »

Jenny Manchester wrote:I'm making a nice little butty with the Election leaflets at the moment, but the next General Election in 4 years time all the leaflets will be treated as the DTD. We won't get a tap for delivering them. The RM gets the lot.... Thanks to all the idiots that voted yes. are you still going to come in early now and give them back your £400 as soon as possible...

some offices refuse to deliver bnp, don't suppose they'll have that option next time
dvbuk55
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Post by dvbuk55 »

Geezer wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
dingo wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:A hung parliament and the next election might be in 4 months not 4 years :Very Happy Will the paymemts have stopped by then ? :shock:
No doubt we will be bombarded with scare stories but no the election agreement remains. Yes Royal Mail do want to re negotiate it due to the fact that downstream access did not exist when the election agreement was orginally agreed.

However Royal Mail wanted it to be inclcuded into workload and offered a £1 per week in the ornginal talks. The union rejected this but quite how Royal Mail can introduce it into workload an event which comes around every few years I dont know. My guess is that they would have to pay overtime.

But to answer the orignal question the Election agreement still holds the field.
What a dream world you do live in Dingo, the Election agreement still holds the field BUT Royal Mail are still refusing to pay you should have said and Bob Gibson has already sent a nasty email - you cannot make them pay, you cannot make them adhere to a single statement in any agreement. Despite popular thinking dingo, the mouth is NOT mightier than the sword.

You took the words right out of my mouth there dvb, and Dingo i got on to my Branch sent them the Agreement ( as they never had a copy too hand apparently ) they sent me an email to say they had passed it onto division, who have got onto HQ.
That was 2 weeks ago and branch emailed me again yesterday and said they were still waiting for a reply GO FIGURE............!
The trouble is geezer, in dingos' world the union seem to have some vestige of power left, whereas in the real world.............................
Cut Off King
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Post by Cut Off King »

Dingo wrote :
However Royal Mail wanted it to be inclcuded into workload and offered a £1 per week in the ornginal talks. The union rejected this
Yeah the CWU were having none of it, they negotiated 50p per week instead
Geezer
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Post by Geezer »

dvbuk55 wrote:
Geezer wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
dingo wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:A hung parliament and the next election might be in 4 months not 4 years :Very Happy Will the paymemts have stopped by then ? :shock:
No doubt we will be bombarded with scare stories but no the election agreement remains. Yes Royal Mail do want to re negotiate it due to the fact that downstream access did not exist when the election agreement was orginally agreed.

However Royal Mail wanted it to be inclcuded into workload and offered a £1 per week in the ornginal talks. The union rejected this but quite how Royal Mail can introduce it into workload an event which comes around every few years I dont know. My guess is that they would have to pay overtime.

But to answer the orignal question the Election agreement still holds the field.
What a dream world you do live in Dingo, the Election agreement still holds the field BUT Royal Mail are still refusing to pay you should have said and Bob Gibson has already sent a nasty email - you cannot make them pay, you cannot make them adhere to a single statement in any agreement. Despite popular thinking dingo, the mouth is NOT mightier than the sword.

You took the words right out of my mouth there dvb, and Dingo i got on to my Branch sent them the Agreement ( as they never had a copy too hand apparently ) they sent me an email to say they had passed it onto division, who have got onto HQ.
That was 2 weeks ago and branch emailed me again yesterday and said they were still waiting for a reply GO FIGURE............!
The trouble is geezer, in dingos' world the union seem to have some vestige of power left, whereas in the real world.............................

And his reply to that will be the same old same old! strong areas weak areas bulls^it. And when i or anyone else get onto my Rep/Area Rep/Branch/Div Rep and still no joy as happens now, will it be my or my colleges fault we get shafted or HQ's.
music4essex
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Post by music4essex »

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My understanding is that the areas which flagged up the issue with Polling cards and DSA have been resolved certainly the offices I dealt with have now. May be you need to get onto the area rep. Dingo Wrote"

As folks have written I have been on this case for 2 weeks now area rep told about it 3 times head office told about it twice.

We are still being shafted over payments or not being paid in this case for poll cards

Unless we down tools which won't happen in my office, I cannot see anything being positive for the future, if the debacle is this bad on just being paid for poll cards :arrrghhh

Essex mum Now you know why I voted No but it seems the Yes folks know more then i do that the future is bringht with RM :evil/mad