non union members

[hullwyke]

what happens to the non union members that dont get a chance to vote and dont agree is that just classed as a yes vote ? by some idiots who just see the £400 carrot dangled in front of them .

[Delivery Donkey]

Tough,you should have joined the union.

[hullwyke]

Tough,you should have joined the union.

just for your info i am , but wont be tomorrow .

[Delivery Donkey]

Then why worry about non union members,they have to go with the flow,what i can't understand is people leaving the union without giving things a chance.

[boon3590]

Tough,you should have joined the union.

Hmm wrong hes the clever one he hasent been blowing his money to the union every week keep saving your money mate dont join that sinking ship.

[el_cartero]

its a mass exodus now anyway?

so welcome to being a non member

and pat urself on the back for not being a MUG any longer

[pcb]

If only those who leave the union leave behind all the advantages gained by the union over the years. Hand back your paid holidays, hand back your sick pay, hand back your payrise, hand back your lump sums, hand back your representation at interviews, hand back your health and safety, hand back your rights under the ER act, hand back your democratic right to VOTE on chnage. PS don't forget to doff your hat to the nice managers who will obviously have YOUR interest at heart in the long run!

[hullwyke]

If only those who leave the union leave behind all the advantages gained by the union over the years. Hand back your paid holidays, hand back your sick pay, hand back your payrise, hand back your lump sums, hand back your representation at interviews, hand back your health and safety, hand back your rights under the ER act, hand back your democratic right to VOTE on chnage. PS don't forget to doff your hat to the nice managers who will obviously have YOUR interest at heart in the long run!

are you taking the p*** or what ?

[Delivery Donkey]

PCB is quite right,if most people leave the union it will weaken it further, then all it will leave you with is non union members walking in to the office yes sir no sir MORE than threeee bags full sir!!!

[jack straw]

If only those who leave the union leave behind all the advantages gained by the union over the years. Hand back your paid holidays, hand back your sick pay, hand back your payrise, hand back your lump sums, hand back your representation at interviews, hand back your health and safety, hand back your rights under the ER act, hand back your democratic right to VOTE on chnage. PS don't forget to doff your hat to the nice managers who will obviously have YOUR interest at heart in the long run!

Oh do stop you old fool. Theyve somehow managed to agree with RM and fool you union members to vote for extra work AND a pay cut.
To quote Gordon Brown 'Get real'. Those two idiots running the union should be run out of town. Get someone in with half a brain, and working for the postmen and women and people may rejoin the union again. Until then, get out

[TrueBlueTerrier]

what happens to the non union members that dont get a chance to vote and dont agree is that just classed as a yes vote ? by some idiots who just see the £400 carrot dangled in front of them .

Royal Mail employment contract does answer this.

Basically RM is an employer that operates their contracts of work on collective agreements. The bodies that they consult in regard to these collective agreements are the CWU and CMA.

Both Unions operate under a democratic rule of only their paying members are eligible to vote on any agreement they present to their members.


So under the rule of collective agreements only Union members get to vote on it changes, but non union members contracts are changed tin line with that collective agreement.

[REDLETTER]

If only those who leave the union leave behind all the advantages gained by the union over the years. Hand back your paid holidays, hand back your sick pay, hand back your payrise, hand back your lump sums, hand back your representation at interviews, hand back your health and safety, hand back your rights under the ER act, hand back your democratic right to VOTE on chnage. PS don't forget to doff your hat to the nice managers who will obviously have YOUR interest at heart in the long run!

Health and Safety is a right, not just given from the Union, yes they may shout and rant a bit more than an individual, but if there is an issue, there are government bodies that can help.

How many of you know where the Employers Liability Insurance Certificate is displayed in your workplace? And is it valid!

As an employer, you are legally responsible for the safety and health of your employees when they are on the job. If they feel that you are responsible for an injury they have suffered at work, or become ill because of dangerous conditions they were exposed to in the workplace, your employees may seek compensation from you. With this in mind, the Employers’ Liability (Compulsory Insurance Act of 1969 requires that you have least £5 million of insurance cover against any claims they may file.

Don't blow a trumpet that isn't all yours to blow!!!!

[mr hil.]

It was the unionist movement that gained all these rights we so rightly deserve, without the sacrifice over many years we could still be totally dictated to by management without any recourse or consultation. History shows us that a workforce prepared to stand up for itself needs to have a voice and the union is that voice. So this time we feel that the voice has let us down, but consider what could have happened if there was no union at all!!

Royal mails business plan is severely flawed and I think is doomed to failure in its present format, the union will protect us when things begin to go wrong even if it is only by using the conduct code/MTSF procedures to ensure no one is unfairly victimized and forced from the job.

We have lost this battle and it is very hard to swallow, but we can voice our concerns and attempt to salvage some semblance of service from this diabolical mess.

Members should show strength and ensure that when the office revisions start things are done by the book and management are not allowed to slash services in the name of cost savings. I see this as an opportunity to have a meaningful say in the new delivery structures, it will take a lot of work, most of it unpaid, to plan things properly. GET INVOLVED LOCALLY, that is what they want and we should give them our input. We know the best way of doing things, its time to stand up and say just how things should be done.

Many changes recently have been enforced as a result of managements knee jerk reaction to local budget cuts and were not planned properly. This must not be allowed to happen this time, if your office revision goes ahead and you do not have any influence on the new delivery structures you have not done enough and deserve all that you get.

RANT over..I think its time to hide for a while now....

[Cheetah]

If only those who leave the union leave behind all the advantages gained by the union over the years. Hand back your paid holidays, hand back your sick pay, hand back your payrise, hand back your lump sums, hand back your representation at interviews, hand back your health and safety, hand back your rights under the ER act, hand back your democratic right to VOTE on chnage. PS don't forget to doff your hat to the nice managers who will obviously have YOUR interest at heart in the long run!

Hey don't want to seem divisive hear but if i were in processing i'd be singing the praises of the union kid, see how you would feel about them if you were in delivery ..... And at the end of the day they ain't doing it for nowt, don't forget Billy who strugles to string a sentence together gets £99 grand a year and he won't be out on saturdays till three will he now, and neither will he be getting fat on my subs any more

[had-enough]

Tough,you should have joined the union.

just for your info i am , but wont be tomorrow .

well done nor me phuq the tossers