It looks like the CWU as informed Royal Mail it’s a yes vote

[geopip]

It looks like the CWU has informed Royal Mail it’s a yes vote before us.

The LTB from Andy Furey below states.

“The delay in commencing these negotiations is unfortunate and is a consequence of Royal Mail Group centre insisting that POL could not enter into pay bargaining until the ballot for the CWU/Royal Mail Agreement: Business Transformation 2010 and Beyond had closed”.

The only reason for a delay to the talks would because a no vote would have meant no pay talks again this year, so you can only guess RM have been told already it’s a yes.



No: 359 Ref: 26 April 2010 Date: 26 April 2010

TO: ALL BRANCHES WITH POSTAL MEMBERS



Dear Colleague

POL – PAY NEGOTIATIONS: 1ST APRIL 2010

I wish to advise branches and members that formal pay negotiations will commence with POL this Wednesday and Thursday, 28th and 29th April 2010. These pay negotiations will encompass all CWU members working in POL, including CViT / Cash Centre workers (in Supply Chain) together with members from Crowns and Admin.

The CWU negotiating team will be led by myself, supported by Carl Maden and Ian Ward, Postal Executive members. Additional support will be provided by Andrew Towers, Research and the C&CH Department staff.

The delay in commencing these negotiations is unfortunate and is a consequence of Royal Mail Group centre insisting that POL could not enter into pay bargaining until the ballot for the CWU/Royal Mail Agreement: Business Transformation 2010 and Beyond had closed. Now that negotiations are due to commence, hopefully, we will be able to make progress quickly.

Please ensure that this LTB is brought to the urgent attention of all members working within POL.

Further developments will be reported.

All enquiries on the above should be addressed to Claire Bowers on cbowers@cwu.org or 020 8971 7361.

Yours sincerely


Andy Furey
Assistant Secretary

[mdm]

It looks like the CWU has informed Royal Mail it’s a yes vote before us.

The LTB from Andy Furey below states.

“The delay in commencing these negotiations is unfortunate and is a consequence of Royal Mail Group centre insisting that POL could not enter into pay bargaining until the ballot for the CWU/Royal Mail Agreement: Business Transformation 2010 and Beyond had closed”.

The only reason for a delay to the talks would because a no vote would have meant no pay talks again this year, so you can only guess RM have been told already it’s a yes.



No: 359 Ref: 26 April 2010 Date: 26 April 2010

TO: ALL BRANCHES WITH POSTAL MEMBERS



Dear Colleague

POL – PAY NEGOTIATIONS: 1ST APRIL 2010

I wish to advise branches and members that formal pay negotiations will commence with POL this Wednesday and Thursday, 28th and 29th April 2010. These pay negotiations will encompass all CWU members working in POL, including CViT / Cash Centre workers (in Supply Chain) together with members from Crowns and Admin.

The CWU negotiating team will be led by myself, supported by Carl Maden and Ian Ward, Postal Executive members. Additional support will be provided by Andrew Towers, Research and the C&CH Department staff.

The delay in commencing these negotiations is unfortunate and is a consequence of Royal Mail Group centre insisting that POL could not enter into pay bargaining until the ballot for the CWU/Royal Mail Agreement: Business Transformation 2010 and Beyond had closed. Now that negotiations are due to commence, hopefully, we will be able to make progress quickly.

Please ensure that this LTB is brought to the urgent attention of all members working within POL.

Further developments will be reported.

All enquiries on the above should be addressed to Claire Bowers on cbowers@cwu.org or 020 8971 7361.

Yours sincerely


Andy Furey
Assistant Secretary

right, that's me out of the union then!

[Big Daz]

Geopip

I beg to differ

The delay in commencing these negotiations is unfortunate and is a consequence of Royal Mail Group centre insisting that POL could not enter into pay bargaining until the ballot for the CWU/Royal Mail Agreement: Business Transformation 2010 and Beyond had closed.

Tuesday is the close of the ballot, therefore talks for POL Pay can start Wednesday, there is no mention of a yes vote in the start date criteria for POL talks.

[belle smith]

Geopip

I beg to differ

The delay in commencing these negotiations is unfortunate and is a consequence of Royal Mail Group centre insisting that POL could not enter into pay bargaining until the ballot for the CWU/Royal Mail Agreement: Business Transformation 2010 and Beyond had closed.

Tuesday is the close of the ballot, therefore talks for POL Pay can start Wednesday, there is no mention of a yes vote in the start date criteria for POL talks.

Thats the way i read it as well

[geopip]

Geopip

I beg to differ

The delay in commencing these negotiations is unfortunate and is a consequence of Royal Mail Group centre insisting that POL could not enter into pay bargaining until the ballot for the CWU/Royal Mail Agreement: Business Transformation 2010 and Beyond had closed.

Tuesday is the close of the ballot, therefore talks for POL Pay can start Wednesday, there is no mention of a yes vote in the start date criteria for POL talks.

Thats the way i read it as well

Why would the business want to wait until a ballot in Royal Mail closes before opening talks in POl ?

[clashcityrocker]

Why would the business want to wait until the a ballot in Royal Mail closes before opening talks in POl ?

Why would someone want to start a thread when they have got no evidence to back up what they are saying?

[REARVIEWMIRROR]

Nobody I have spoken to has voted yes, if replicated across the country should be a big zero vote in favour of course sometimes people do lie a bit still i'm sure things wont be to bad if accepted as opposed to being excecuted guess high noon would be a good time

[geopip]

Why would the business want to wait until the a ballot in Royal Mail closes before opening talks in POl ?

Why would someone want to start a thread when they have got no evidence to back up what they are saying?

You need to read between the lines of the LTB. I raised the issue earlier in Re: What is your Branch Recommending?List.
by geopip » Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:53,pm
"I hear the Group are refusing to allow any pay talks to take place with POl or Parcelforce because they are worried the agreement is going down".

I am only saying in this tread that it would appear the deal has gone through and of course the Union will have indicated to RM which way the vote was going because they will want the benefits of the deal to be handed out asap

[mufc]

personally iv not met anyone yet who voted for the way forward.............that came in by a yes vote, 2007 deal the same.
this is no different in my eyes everyone i speak to says they voted no , ill be amazed if its a no vote

i voted no by the way

[Big Daz]

Have you ever met anyone who voted no on the 1st go at the WF and yes when it was altered and sent for reballot?

Now you have