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My Wage is 3p

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ziko
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My Wage is 3p

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Today my office was told no one will be paid any overtime because we're recieving a payment of 3p per poll card item delivered.
Our Union rep phoned headoffice and told us that the rules and regulations on overtime payment caused because of excess delivery items from 2nd class poll cards was unclear
Clarification from the rule book on this one would be recieved with gratitude? No one has been able to book any overtime as the overtime book is mysteriously no where to be found in the managers office along with any manager this afternoon. :mad
Steviea34
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Re: My Wage is 3p

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ziko wrote:Today my office was told no one will be paid any overtime because we're recieving a payment of 3p per poll card item delivered.
Our Union rep phoned headoffice and told us that the rules and regulations on overtime payment caused because of excess delivery items from 2nd class poll cards was unclear
Clarification from the rule book on this one would be recieved with gratitude? No one has been able to book any overtime as the overtime book is mysteriously no where to be found in the managers office along with any manager this afternoon. :mad
If you are paid 3P per card, you have 3 days to deliver them in, unless the O/T is due to excess normal traffic,
why would you expect to be paid twice? :d'oh!
ziko
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Re: My Wage is 3p

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Steviea34 wrote: If you are paid 3P per card, you have 3 days to deliver them in, unless the O/T is due to excess normal traffic,
why would you expect to be paid twice? :d'oh!
No, we didn't have 3 days to deliver the poll cards we were told that under no circumstances were any to be left in frame all had to be delivered today!
Also why would we be paid twice, are you not on a hourly rate steve?
My question was i need clarification that a payment of 3p per item is a legal substitution for our hourly wage?
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Re: My Wage is 3p

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ziko wrote:
Steviea34 wrote: If you are paid 3P per card, you have 3 days to deliver them in, unless the O/T is due to excess normal traffic,
why would you expect to be paid twice? :d'oh!
No, we didn't have 3 days to deliver the poll cards we were told that under no circumstances were any to be left in frame all had to be delivered today!
Also why would we be paid twice, are you not on a hourly rate steve?
My question was i need clarification that a payment of 3p per item is a legal substitution for our hourly wage?
You're confusing people and probably your self.

You have 3 days for poll cards,end of.
The 3p is 'extra' payment like D2D's,you done it in duty time did you not.

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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Just re read your post,as you had to take them all and you went over,then yes you should be able to book docket.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
proper postie
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Re: My Wage is 3p

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ziko wrote:
Steviea34 wrote: If you are paid 3P per card, you have 3 days to deliver them in, unless the O/T is due to excess normal traffic,
why would you expect to be paid twice? :d'oh!
No, we didn't have 3 days to deliver the poll cards we were told that under no circumstances were any to be left in frame all had to be delivered today!
Also why would we be paid twice, are you not on a hourly rate steve?
My question was i need clarification that a payment of 3p per item is a legal substitution for our hourly wage?
See,this is the problem with local agreements.No one knows what the office down the road are getting,time and money wise,and liberties are being taken by some doms.

It should be a one size fits all payment* instead of what is,quite frankly,a whole lot of unnecessary confusion.


*taking into account the higher living costs in London.
TheBear
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Post by TheBear »

I sympathise we had the exact same thing this morning. Apparently they were not expecting them til Thursday? So anyways they turned up today and we were told they ALL had to go today...thats 1 day not 3. The Union nor Royal mail had a cohesive answer to us about the overtime.

So naturally most of us cut off as basically from our finish time onwards we were being paid 3p per poll card and no hourly rate... No chance.

Oh and when it came to leaving the office the managers said claim the overtime and it will be up to the union and individual basis if you get paid lol. Needless to say most of us said no.

Note : i counted the polling cards i did not do and subtracted them from my total claim.
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Steviea34 wrote:
ziko wrote:Today my office was told no one will be paid any overtime because we're recieving a payment of 3p per poll card item delivered.
Our Union rep phoned headoffice and told us that the rules and regulations on overtime payment caused because of excess delivery items from 2nd class poll cards was unclear
Clarification from the rule book on this one would be recieved with gratitude? No one has been able to book any overtime as the overtime book is mysteriously no where to be found in the managers office along with any manager this afternoon. :mad
If you are paid 3P per card, you have 3 days to deliver them in, unless the O/T is due to excess normal traffic,
why would you expect to be paid twice? :d'oh!
if you delivered all poll cards in your duty time you would be paid your days wages plus the extra for the poll cards, so why if we go over our time should we not expect to be paid o/t as per normal.
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I have had this scenario the last two days. Even though my ~125 business and 475 residential round typically has 6+ specials and 10 recorded, which takes ~4.5 hours to deliver in my trolley, our DOM tried to bully me today into never claiming extended delivery overtime when I have delivered/prepped election material OR D2D!

I see no option for me, given I recieve Working Tax Credits: I need to do all my D2D on my quietest day (Monday) along with any election material, then claim extended delivery for Tues&Weds&Thurs. Along with my 1 hour prep overtime, this should easily get me 7.5 hours legit overtime and then inform my line manager that I need to cut off on Fri&Sat.

I get my pay balanced out with Working Tax Credits, line manager and DOM then see they will need to pay someone to cover my cut off at their normal hourly rate plus 3/4pence premium for the election material for the cut off zone.

If it would normally be 15 minutes max over my 1430 finish time, I could live with that. However, I expect to get back from my walk at least 30 minutes past my finish time, then spend another 15-30 minutes dealing with failed specials and recorded plus my "deads" pile which cannot be done before I go out in the morning without delivering my final special(s) after the 1300 deadline.
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Post by montriff »

wouldn't you rather be paid 3p x 600 (£18)to do something that might take you an extra hour :whistle
bella
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Post by bella »

Where did this 3p per polling card come from?????? We were told we don't get paid for these anymore, we did ours last week, we had 3 days to deliver and no payment for them. Someone please explain.
Jenny Manchester
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ziko wrote:Today my office was told no one will be paid any overtime because we're recieving a payment of 3p per poll card item delivered.
Our Union rep phoned headoffice and told us that the rules and regulations on overtime payment caused because of excess delivery items from 2nd class poll cards was unclear
Clarification from the rule book on this one would be recieved with gratitude? No one has been able to book any overtime as the overtime book is mysteriously no where to be found in the managers office along with any manager this afternoon. :mad
Has anyone got the Balls to name offices that are getting paid 3p to deliver polling cards. my rep wants evidence, i think its all wind ups on here or are you afraid of the line manager reading on here. Bawk. Bawk. Bawk...
feduppostie
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Post by feduppostie »

Jenny we got 3p per card and we are not a million miles from you ( if your name is correct)#

go above your rep to the area rep and claim what you are due
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Isn''t it 16.5p per drop for multiple addressed poll cards, 6.6p for single addressed and 3p for unadressed from some offices ? :shock: :shock:
IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: My Wage is 3p

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

Jenny Manchester wrote:
ziko wrote:Today my office was told no one will be paid any overtime because we're recieving a payment of 3p per poll card item delivered.
Our Union rep phoned headoffice and told us that the rules and regulations on overtime payment caused because of excess delivery items from 2nd class poll cards was unclear
Clarification from the rule book on this one would be recieved with gratitude? No one has been able to book any overtime as the overtime book is mysteriously no where to be found in the managers office along with any manager this afternoon. :mad
Has anyone got the Balls to name offices that are getting paid 3p to deliver polling cards. my rep wants evidence, i think its all wind ups on here or are you afraid of the line manager reading on here. Bawk. Bawk. Bawk...
After much confusion on the morning when they arrived, we were informed that we should be claiming an election premium for the 2nd class polling cards. I was told when my round was already bundled up, so I had to estimate 900 cards spread over 475 residentials (even that could have been an under-estimate, got a fair few multiple occupancies on my round).

Yet to see sign of any electerial material yet (was expecting some on this week's payslip from the w/c 12/4 for the polling cards and 400 Labour).
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