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the dragon
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Quote from Dave Ward

Post by the dragon »

" Surely the principle of fairness is a cornerstone of trade unionism - isnt it ?"
Well Im sure it should be Dave...but hang on a second..some members are getting paid nearly 7p for election leaflets, some as little as 3p and then some who it looks like wont be paid anything !! Add your own "fairness" to this thread , Im sure there are plenty more !! :no no
smarterdarter
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Re: Quote from Dave Ward

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A national union with everything worked out at a local level?????
Cheers Dave!
fishtank
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Re: Quote from Dave Ward

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Early shift allowance in delivery will be permanently retained.... :roll:

We have decoupled any link between pay and pension reform. Pensions will now be dealt with separately as a group-wide issue and members will be balloted separately following the conclusion of the legal consultation process..... :left:
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
Big Daz
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Re: Quote from Dave Ward

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the dragon wrote:" Surely the principle of fairness is a cornerstone of trade unionism - isnt it ?"
Well Im sure it should be Dave...but hang on a second..some members are getting paid nearly 7p for election leaflets, some as little as 3p and then some who it looks like wont be paid anything !! Add your own "fairness" to this thread , Im sure there are plenty more !! :no no

It was different set ups and payment amounts before the national agreement was made.

Those who are not geting paid should submit greviances as they are entitled to payment under the national agreement.
the dragon
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Re: Quote from Dave Ward

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It was different set ups and payment amounts before the national agreement was made.

oh, so the quote was only meant to refer to any union activity after the agreement was made :crazy: so before this inequality was a cornerstone of trade unionism ??
Steviea34
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Re: Quote from Dave Ward

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the dragon wrote:It was different set ups and payment amounts before the national agreement was made.

oh, so the quote was only meant to refer to any union activity after the agreement was made :crazy: so before this inequality was a cornerstone of trade unionism ??

Surely these months of negotiation could of come up with a flat rate for one & all

" Single unit payment for election material same rate for all" all say i - i - motion carried!!!! :Very Happy
Pinky Cubitt
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Re: Quote from Dave Ward

Post by Pinky Cubitt »

MDEC workers are on a lower rate of pay than everyone else in RM. Well, some of them are. Any who have transferred from delivery offices are still on the higher rate. So workers doing the same job, in the same building, sat at the same desks are on different hourly rates. Fair?
When the union is asked about this they tell us 'we've tried to sort it out but we got nowhere'.
What a surprise.
Lincox
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Re: Quote from Dave Ward

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Why do these Yes Men keep falling into the same old trap. Every time they take up an argument they get blown out of the water by a sensible response. What is it that they are getting that makes them follow the Union line without even suggesting that there may be an alternative argument. Anyone put their finger on it, as I would not like to raise any suggestions that might be misconstrude.
cashman
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Re: Quote from Dave Ward

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smarterdarter wrote:A national union with everything worked out at a local level?????
Cheers Dave!
Thats it in a nutshell!!! :Applause :Applause :Applause
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Re: Quote from Dave Ward

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Big Daz wrote:
the dragon wrote:" Surely the principle of fairness is a cornerstone of trade unionism - isnt it ?"
Well Im sure it should be Dave...but hang on a second..some members are getting paid nearly 7p for election leaflets, some as little as 3p and then some who it looks like wont be paid anything !! Add your own "fairness" to this thread , Im sure there are plenty more !! :no no

It was different set ups and payment amounts before the national agreement was made.

Those who are not geting paid should submit greviances as they are entitled to payment under the national agreement.
When area rep, div rep, branch secretary wont support us this is very very difficult.