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Non Drivers?
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beaker boy
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Non Drivers?
If you dont have a driving licence but the duty you have been doing for years will be turned into a CDV duty because of it's distance from the office,will that person still be able to pick it in a re- sign?
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fishtank
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Re: Non Drivers?
beaker boy wrote:If you dont have a driving licence but the duty you have been doing for years will be turned into a CDV duty because of it's distance from the office,will that person still be able to pick it in a re- sign?
There will be two in a CDV duty.
Only one HAS to be a driver.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Non Drivers?
Ther will be 2 of you,one a driver one not,so you could still get your duty.beaker boy wrote:If you dont have a driving licence but the duty you have been doing for years will be turned into a CDV duty because of it's distance from the office,will that person still be able to pick it in a re- sign?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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capricorn
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Re: Non Drivers?
I can drive but I am not registered as an OMV driver & don't want to be.
If enough drivers de-register before this crazy scheme comes upon us we could beat it, but it needs to halt the use of private vehicles & the drivers de-register.
Is it true all new contracts stipulate that you must be willing to drive an OMV ?
" I had a dream "
If enough drivers de-register before this crazy scheme comes upon us we could beat it, but it needs to halt the use of private vehicles & the drivers de-register.
Is it true all new contracts stipulate that you must be willing to drive an OMV ?
" I had a dream "
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nationwide
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Re: Non Drivers?
If that's the case then I will seriously think twice before signing a contract as I don't want to be driving a RM van.capricorn wrote:b]Is it true all new contracts stipulate that you must be willing to drive an OMV ?[/b]" I had a dream "
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Non Drivers?
Yes - All recent adverts for jobs I have seen all Mention "Occasional Driving"capricorn wrote:b]Is it true all new contracts stipulate that you must be willing to drive an OMV ?[/b]" I had a dream "
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steven100
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Re: Non Drivers?
Why are people going to drive for pittance when in return your responsible for the other passengers safety plus you get parking tickets etc doing your job. With no backing from rm.
If you lose your licence will rm keep you on???? i think not.
If you lose your licence will rm keep you on???? i think not.
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nationwide
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Re: Non Drivers?
If you lose your licence will rm keep you on???? i think not.[/quote]
I can't see why not the RM do have some non drivers working for them don't they?
On the other hand if you were a travelling salesman you would expect to lose your job if you lost you driving licence.
I can't see why not the RM do have some non drivers working for them don't they?
On the other hand if you were a travelling salesman you would expect to lose your job if you lost you driving licence.
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fishtank
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Re: Non Drivers?
Dealing with drivers who invalidate themselves from drivingnationwide wrote:If you lose your licence will rm keep you on???? i think not.
I can't see why not the RM do have some non drivers working for them don't they?
On the other hand if you were a travelling salesman you would expect to lose your job if you lost you driving licence.
This is not a new problem for Royal Mail, but the increased numbers of vans in your operation may make the problems associated with this more acute. Guidance on how to deal with this situation will vary, depending on the nature of how the licence has been invalidated.
However, as a principle, all reasonable steps will be made to find alternative duties within the parent unit for people who can no longer perform a driving duty. Licences may be invalidated for many reasons – common situations include:
1. Alcohol & Drugs
2. Medical condition
3. Driving offences, e.g. civil speeding points.
Cases can be complicated, and there will be situations which occur that are not covered in the list above. Contact the People Contact Services (0845 6060603, postline 5456 7100) for expert advice in these cases.
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wf
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Re: Non Drivers?
capricorn wrote:I can drive but I am not registered as an OMV driver & don't want to be.
If enough drivers de-register before this crazy scheme comes upon us we could beat it, but it needs to halt the use of private vehicles & the drivers de-register.
Is it true all new contracts stipulate that you must be willing to drive an OMV ?
" I had a dream "
Would be interested in knowing how to de register from driving.had an accident at christmas in royalmail van.
told them i no longer wished to drive.was threatened with suspension.then told they would no longer have a
job for me if i didnt drive.union man was present during this and didnt say a word to defend me.my contract
started when i was 16 so certainly didnt have a licence then.
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proper postie
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Re: Non Drivers?
So what if you don't want to drive?
I have neither the urge nor desire to drive,am I on the scrap heap now?
I have neither the urge nor desire to drive,am I on the scrap heap now?
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dvbuk55
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Re: Non Drivers?
I wonder if you could challenge the "occasional driving" element of the contract if in fact you were expected to drive every day and carry a passenger/passengers. I don't know if there is anything in this CDV Guidelines which states you must drive if asked, I mean has anyone considered what would happen in a given DO if nobody wanted to drive for RM?
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carlos-g
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Re: Non Drivers?
wf wrote: Would be interested in knowing how to de register from driving.had an accident at christmas in royalmail van.
told them i no longer wished to drive.was threatened with suspension.then told they would no longer have a
job for me if i didnt drive.union man was present during this and didnt say a word to defend me.my contract
started when i was 16 so certainly didnt have a licence then.
You need to write a letter to your DOM stating you no longer wish to drive for Royal Mail and that you are officially giving him/her 4 weeks notice , if possible go see your doctor tell them that driving is giving you hard to deal with stress issues (finding it difficult to keep to scedule without speeding ect) and get a supporting note from them.
I did this a few years ago as driving for RM did really stress me out and affected the way I drove my own vehicle outside of work , they keep trying to get me back covering absence but I just refuse and state the reasons.
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Martin Walsh
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Re: Non Drivers?
Employment law is not on our side on this issue. The law is an ass.
This was proved when postman were forced to drive car dervied vans during last years dispute. We got legal advice from specialists and it was not very good. Our members in the end had to make a choice did they face displine or did they drive. Some who decided to do that now perfer the CDVs.
Royal Mail do their homework , they know who use their private cars on delivery now , and they also know that it restricts space for private cars in yards etc. Plus just as important it restricts the duties you can sign for.
For example if you have 30 walks , 20 and them CDVs and 10 HCT walks then a non driver can only sign for 5 duties on the CDVs and the 10 duties on the HCT walks. As non driving shared van partners should be restricted to 50% or less of the total number of shared van partners.
The agreement does talk about that DRIVING DUTIES WILL BE RESTRICTED TO EXISTING AND VOLUNTEER NEW DRIVING DUTIES AND NON DRIVING DUTIES WILL BE RESTRICTED TO NON -DRIVERS.
This was proved when postman were forced to drive car dervied vans during last years dispute. We got legal advice from specialists and it was not very good. Our members in the end had to make a choice did they face displine or did they drive. Some who decided to do that now perfer the CDVs.
Royal Mail do their homework , they know who use their private cars on delivery now , and they also know that it restricts space for private cars in yards etc. Plus just as important it restricts the duties you can sign for.
For example if you have 30 walks , 20 and them CDVs and 10 HCT walks then a non driver can only sign for 5 duties on the CDVs and the 10 duties on the HCT walks. As non driving shared van partners should be restricted to 50% or less of the total number of shared van partners.
The agreement does talk about that DRIVING DUTIES WILL BE RESTRICTED TO EXISTING AND VOLUNTEER NEW DRIVING DUTIES AND NON DRIVING DUTIES WILL BE RESTRICTED TO NON -DRIVERS.
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fishtank
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Re: Non Drivers?
If that is the case dingo DRIVERS will find their choice of duties even more restricted than non-drivers as they will more or less find themselves pushed onto the cdv duties.dingo wrote: The agreement does talk about that DRIVING DUTIES WILL BE RESTRICTED TO EXISTING AND VOLUNTEER NEW DRIVING DUTIES AND NON DRIVING DUTIES WILL BE RESTRICTED TO NON -DRIVERS.
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