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grandfather rights

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dannyboy
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grandfather rights

Post by dannyboy »

can somebody give me the correct answer
if you have grandfather rights do you still keep the early morning allowance .we had a meeting with area rep who said we still keep it which i thought was wrong.
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The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.

That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.

ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
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Looks like you could be out of pocket then :wink:
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dannyboy
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i thought i would be but it just shows even the area rep is passing out wrong information to make this deal look better to me
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Yep, the dawn shift mbrs at my D.O will be due to come to the end of their 3 years protection this year. Out of pocket even without infinty and beyond.
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ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
I've been meaning to ask this,in 07 when the later starts came in,was the above protected for ever,or for 3 years.
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POSTMAN wrote:
ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
I've been meaning to ask this,in 07 when the later starts came in,was the above protected for ever,or for 3 years.

Forever, but ONLY if no agreement on pay restructuring could be found. One of those working group things that never really took place.

Powers that be were able to agree on pay restructring as part of 2010 that being the supplement.
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So you see the sell out began long ago. Time to plan for the long term, stop reacting ,start acting,
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Re: grandfather rights

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Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.

That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.

ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?
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Postal1 wrote:
Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.

That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.

ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?
No its only for the 0500 and 0530 ESA 1&2 which go into funding the supplement. Those in reciept of the dawn shift allowance retain it.
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dingo wrote:
Postal1 wrote:
Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.

That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.

ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?
No its only for the 0500 and 0530 ESA 1&2 which go into funding the supplement. Those in reciept of the dawn shift allowance retain it.

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pickaname
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Re: grandfather rights

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dingo wrote:
Postal1 wrote:
Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.

That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.

ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?
No its only for the 0500 and 0530 ESA 1&2 which go into funding the supplement. Those in reciept of the dawn shift allowance retain it.
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I bet my ass the supplement will be absorbed in 3 years as well.

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dingo wrote:
Postal1 wrote:
Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.

That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.

ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?
No its only for the 0500 and 0530 ESA 1&2 which go into funding the supplement. Those in reciept of the dawn shift allowance retain it.
Can someone please explain to me why all NDA was not included in the pot? after all, the rational given by the union was that this money was being captured before it leached away forever from members back to RM. Why isn't the dawn shift money included?
manwithnovan
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Re: grandfather rights

Post by manwithnovan »

Let me get this straight....& if anyone could explain this as if talking to a child that would be great

I have always done 4.00am for about 15 years until 2007 when the later starts began

I was told i would keep my £22 under grandfather rights....yes or no?

I am now told its the 50 to 60 year olds that keep it under grandfather rights....yes or no?

I am only 39???
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You keep it for 3 years, not sure if the oldies get it for longer.