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grandfather rights
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dannyboy
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grandfather rights
can somebody give me the correct answer
if you have grandfather rights do you still keep the early morning allowance .we had a meeting with area rep who said we still keep it which i thought was wrong.
if you have grandfather rights do you still keep the early morning allowance .we had a meeting with area rep who said we still keep it which i thought was wrong.
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Big Daz
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Re: grandfather rights
The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.
That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.
ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.
ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
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BELIAL
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dannyboy
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Re: grandfather rights
i thought i would be but it just shows even the area rep is passing out wrong information to make this deal look better to me
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Big Daz
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Re: grandfather rights
Yep, the dawn shift mbrs at my D.O will be due to come to the end of their 3 years protection this year. Out of pocket even without infinty and beyond.
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POSTMAN
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Re: grandfather rights
I've been meaning to ask this,in 07 when the later starts came in,was the above protected for ever,or for 3 years.ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Big Daz
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Re: grandfather rights
POSTMAN wrote:I've been meaning to ask this,in 07 when the later starts came in,was the above protected for ever,or for 3 years.ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
Forever, but ONLY if no agreement on pay restructuring could be found. One of those working group things that never really took place.
Powers that be were able to agree on pay restructring as part of 2010 that being the supplement.
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BELIAL
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Re: grandfather rights
So you see the sell out began long ago. Time to plan for the long term, stop reacting ,start acting,
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Postal1
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Re: grandfather rights
So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.
That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.
ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
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Martin Walsh
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Re: grandfather rights
No its only for the 0500 and 0530 ESA 1&2 which go into funding the supplement. Those in reciept of the dawn shift allowance retain it.Postal1 wrote:So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.
That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.
ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
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fishtank
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Re: grandfather rights
dingo wrote:No its only for the 0500 and 0530 ESA 1&2 which go into funding the supplement. Those in reciept of the dawn shift allowance retain it.Postal1 wrote:So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.
That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.
ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
For how long dingo?
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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pickaname
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Re: grandfather rights
Ripped off big style. And I didnt even strike over money...dingo wrote:No its only for the 0500 and 0530 ESA 1&2 which go into funding the supplement. Those in reciept of the dawn shift allowance retain it.Postal1 wrote:So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.
That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.
ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
I bet my ass the supplement will be absorbed in 3 years as well.
Well angry
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Cut Off King
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Re: grandfather rights
Can someone please explain to me why all NDA was not included in the pot? after all, the rational given by the union was that this money was being captured before it leached away forever from members back to RM. Why isn't the dawn shift money included?dingo wrote:No its only for the 0500 and 0530 ESA 1&2 which go into funding the supplement. Those in reciept of the dawn shift allowance retain it.Postal1 wrote:So do you lose your early shift allowance of you have it now for town duties starting at 4am. It is £14.60 and classed as mixed shift allowance on payslip?Big Daz wrote:The dawn shift is safe, if that is any use to you.
That covers 2am to 4am starts and a number of OPG's at my D.O have that on pay protection for three years.
ESA 1 and 2 which cover the 4.01 am to 5.30 am periods is being absorbed.
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manwithnovan
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- Joined: 01 Jun 2007, 17:36
Re: grandfather rights
Let me get this straight....& if anyone could explain this as if talking to a child that would be great
I have always done 4.00am for about 15 years until 2007 when the later starts began
I was told i would keep my £22 under grandfather rights....yes or no?
I am now told its the 50 to 60 year olds that keep it under grandfather rights....yes or no?
I am only 39???
I have always done 4.00am for about 15 years until 2007 when the later starts began
I was told i would keep my £22 under grandfather rights....yes or no?
I am now told its the 50 to 60 year olds that keep it under grandfather rights....yes or no?
I am only 39???
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Big Daz
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Re: grandfather rights
You keep it for 3 years, not sure if the oldies get it for longer.