IT WAS NEVER ABOUT MONEY !!!!!!!!

[yakuza]

It was never about the money

Why those, up in the sky people from CWU, think that they can buy us out by promising payrise which is absolutely disgraceful and unfair
(PART TIMERS will be flooded with D2D within their part time hours - TRY TO IMAGINE THAT !!! (probably only part timers understand what i mean)

all we wanted was fair warkload and fair delivery times based on thorough tests - not on unrealistic computer figures

Why everything in my office is driven by budget not by realistic work time we need to do the job - how we can go forward if our office is permanently understaffed for many reasons - sickness, sacking, etc

Those money pinchers DOMs are doing it all the time at all cost, no regards to real workload or realistic time to finish job.

They Dont trust a word we are saying and question everthing, I guess this is a new way forward

ROYAL MAIL WAY

[proper postie]

It was never about the money

Why those, up in the sky people from CWU, think that they can buy us out by promising payrise which is absolutely disgraceful and unfair
(PART TIMERS will be flooded with D2D within their part time hours - TRY TO IMAGINE THAT !!! (probably only part timers understand what i mean)

all we wanted was fair warkload and fair delivery times based on thorough tests - not on unrealistic computer figures

Why everything in my office is driven by budget not by realistic work time we need to do the job - how we can go forward if our office is permanently understaffed for many reasons - sickness, sacking, etc

Those money pinchers DOMs are doing it all the time at all cost, no regards to real workload or realistic time to finish job.

They Dont trust a word we are saying and question everthing, I guess this is a new way forward

ROYAL MAIL WAY

I'll say one thing,I didn't go out over pay.I took the pay freeze on the chin,hell I'd take another one,but a pay cut?

You're having a laugh!

It was made about the money by the cwu & rm

[Big Daz]

Given that CWU HQ wanted to to get a yes vote for whatever agreeemnt they came up with, I would have thought it would be more sensible to have achived more of the 6.9% in the year one increase to basic pay, say 4% which would have counteracted the loss of ESA 1. That would be around £13.90. The surplus and the supplement would then be around £22.20 which for a six week leave person who has no DTD for the 2 weeks leading up to xmas and the week after is worth £26.86 to counteract the DTD payment. Certainly take the sting out of the tail at my D.O although that still leaves the later saturdays issue to deal with before the no voters at my D.O would consider a yes vote.

Whilst later starts and therefore finish may be unavoidable due to sequenced mail, the M3 will also impact by around 30 mins (IPS, Prep, Delivery)

[flatfoot]

for me it is the later saturdays,im not chuffed with d2d payments but because of the later saturdays i will vote no

[smokerjim]

It's actually quite insulting that last year, CWU trumpeted loud & clear "It's not about money....it's about RM B&H in the workplace, unagreed standards, slash & burn tactics - we don't want to go on strike, we want to talk with RM, but we are left with little choice!"

5 or 6 months down the line its, "Well lads, we talked with RM, got you a bit of extra money, made deliveries a harder job, made MCs an endangered species, possibly increased the chance of B&H ( but RM have PROMISED us they won't take that chance ) and we have some new standards to agree to....err, that's it - so vote YES, cos there is no plan B.

[mucker]

It's actually quite insulting that last year, CWU trumpeted loud & clear "It's not about money....it's about RM B&H in the workplace, unagreed standards, slash & burn tactics - we don't want to go on strike, we want to talk with RM, but we are left with little choice!"

5 or 6 months down the line its, "Well lads, we talked with RM, got you a bit of extra money, made deliveries a harder job, made MCs an endangered species, possibly increased the chance of B&H ( but RM have PROMISED us they won't take that chance ) and we have some new standards to agree to....err, that's it - so vote YES, cos there is no plan B.

you forgot to mention job secutity for the next 3 years

[proper postie]

It's actually quite insulting that last year, CWU trumpeted loud & clear "It's not about money....it's about RM B&H in the workplace, unagreed standards, slash & burn tactics - we don't want to go on strike, we want to talk with RM, but we are left with little choice!"

5 or 6 months down the line its, "Well lads, we talked with RM, got you a bit of extra money, made deliveries a harder job, made MCs an endangered species, possibly increased the chance of B&H ( but RM have PROMISED us they won't take that chance ) and we have some new standards to agree to....err, that's it - so vote YES, cos there is no plan B.

Where is this extra bit of money? It wont reflect on my net line that will decrease that's for sure.

I can't believe I was on strike for a pay cut,stunned.

[smokerjim]

It's actually quite insulting that last year, CWU trumpeted loud & clear "It's not about money....it's about RM B&H in the workplace, unagreed standards, slash & burn tactics - we don't want to go on strike, we want to talk with RM, but we are left with little choice!"

5 or 6 months down the line its, "Well lads, we talked with RM, got you a bit of extra money, made deliveries a harder job, made MCs an endangered species, possibly increased the chance of B&H ( but RM have PROMISED us they won't take that chance ) and we have some new standards to agree to....err, that's it - so vote YES, cos there is no plan B.

Where is this extra bit of money? It wont reflect on my net line that will decrease that's for sure.

I can't believe I was on strike for a pay cut,stunned.

I was speaking from the point of view of Dave or Billy & strictly speaking, we are getting extra money ( the pisspoor %age pay rise before d2d supplement ), BUT with everything taken into account, anyone with a delivery gretaer than 200 residential drops is losing money....not to mention the colleague share money we should get with no questions in June, now getting divvied up, and paid out in 3 tranches WITH STRINGS ATTACHED!!!

[proper postie]

It's actually quite insulting that last year, CWU trumpeted loud & clear "It's not about money....it's about RM B&H in the workplace, unagreed standards, slash & burn tactics - we don't want to go on strike, we want to talk with RM, but we are left with little choice!"

5 or 6 months down the line its, "Well lads, we talked with RM, got you a bit of extra money, made deliveries a harder job, made MCs an endangered species, possibly increased the chance of B&H ( but RM have PROMISED us they won't take that chance ) and we have some new standards to agree to....err, that's it - so vote YES, cos there is no plan B.

Where is this extra bit of money? It wont reflect on my net line that will decrease that's for sure.

I can't believe I was on strike for a pay cut,stunned.

I was speaking from the point of view of Dave or Billy & strictly speaking, we are getting extra money ( the pisspoor %age pay rise before d2d supplement ), BUT with everything taken into account, anyone with a delivery gretaer than 200 residential drops is losing money....not to mention the colleague share money we should get with no questions in June, now getting divvied up, and paid out in 3 tranches WITH STRINGS ATTACHED!!!

We've (I assume you are on delivery too) have been shafted.That 400 pro rata lol is mine,now if I get the vote I want were does it go?

I wont get it in June like I was already meant to.