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taffy45
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Post by taffy45 »

ok we have been told in our office that we will get 3.5 pence per item for all election material except the poll cards,now i have read the election procedure and know that we should be getting paid for them, question is if they turn up on monday what do we do as what they will try to do is make us take them out and say we will get it sorted out later,do we phone hq and ask bob gibsons office or take a 2 hour tea break and see who shows up from area ,any suggestions ? we have a union rep who is off for a few weeks by the way
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Post by johnnyp »

You will get paid for them that is the agreement and your Dom needs to know that and not to try and take the piss.
At our office we counted our poll cards,Dom came round with a sheet with all our names on and our duty and we wrote down the amount(1330 on my walk)and signed our name.We were all paid this week.
spilie
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Post by spilie »

how much is your payment johnnyp?
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Post by johnnyp »

6.6p for everything :dance
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Post by spilie »

another reason to vote NO, we are getting 4.5 per door same as last time so your local agreement is better than ours, just a little taster of what is to come
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Post by brothermagrew »

And then there was this:

Letter to Branches
No. 308/10
Ref. 535.09
Date: 9th April 2010

All Branches with Postal Members

Dear colleagues,

Delivery of Election Material.

We are aware of some of the issues regarding Downstream Access poll cards. We have agreed to meet with Royal Mail next week to try and resolve this issue. Once that meeting has taken place and hopefully we have found a satisfactory resolution we will communicate with Branches accordingly.

Yours sincerely

Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary
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spilie
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Post by spilie »

yeah well done bob, in the meantime we will deliver them and you will exert great pressure on RM and come away with .....................
Big Daz
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Post by Big Daz »

spilie wrote:yeah well done bob, in the meantime we will deliver them and you will exert great pressure on RM and come away with .....................

Live mail, not delivering them would be classed as willfull delay or unoffical IA.

Shows how DSA shats upon the workers!!!
Big Daz
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Post by Big Daz »

johnnyp wrote:6.6p for everything :dance

5 pence per item for everything in my area, might be divsional patch rather than just branch as Bob Philips (Anglia Patch) was involved.
AnotherLimey
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Post by AnotherLimey »

Big Daz wrote:
johnnyp wrote:6.6p for everything :dance

5 pence per item for everything in my area, might be divsional patch rather than just branch as Bob Philips (Anglia Patch) was involved.
Same in Pompey, manager recieved a email from his superiors Saturday about it, thats gonna be a very good earner indeed.
Broxi51
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Post by Broxi51 »

AFAIK you can refuse to deliver the election leaflets. You must inform your DOM that you dont want to deliver them and he/she will take steps to get them delivered. I think it is a f*cking disgrace that we in the East of Scotland are getting 3.5p per item while our comrades in the SE England are getting 6.6p
It should be a national agreement for this as every election casts up the same disparity between areas depending on the strength of the union in local/ regional areas. :mad
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Broxi51 wrote:I think it is a f*cking disgrace that we in the East of Scotland are getting 3.5p per item while our comrades in the SE England are getting 6.6p
It should be a national agreement for this as every election casts up the same disparity between areas depending on the strength of the union in local/ regional areas. :mad
Its all part of an agreement reached with the CWU and Royal Mail - An agreement where you get paid different amounts in different areas for doing the same job. Apparently reading the attached LTB at http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 99#p159299" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; the Union turned down Royal Mails offer of a standard figure across the board as they were worried about winners and losers :Very Happy :Very Happy
It should be noted that Royal Mail wanted to agree a national rate that would have been significantly lower than the 6.6 pence and slightly higher than 3 pence. This was rejected on the basis of not wanting to bring our members down to a lower common denominator
How times and conference decisions change :Very Happy

Ps AFAIK we are getting 3p :sad:
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fishtank
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Post by fishtank »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
How times and conference decisions change :Very Happy
The rationale behind the move to a pence per item system of remuneration is that, firstly, it is a more equitable system for our members, in that they will be directly rewarded for the amount of items they deliver. In other words it is directly workload related, whereas the overtime payment system was not, whereby (for example) someone can receive 4 hours overtime payment for delivering 600 items while another person receives the same payment for delivering 200 items or even less.
Indeed TBT. :sad:
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tragictramp
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Post by tragictramp »

were getting 3p per item as well, how can different offices get different payments?> :crazy:
PostieWithTheMostie!
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Post by PostieWithTheMostie! »

Just make sure you HAND~COUNT every POLLING CARD as the last time we had them the DOM's said that ' X ' amount was in a tray because they had been weight counted, so a few of us counted them by hand and oh to our suprise DOM's figures were out by hundreds upon hundreds.. Just like their mail figures.