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It's a YES vote!!!!

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Spedley
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It's a YES vote!!!!

Post by Spedley »

I can't help get the feeling that there are a lot of 'official' posters on this forum.

What better propaganda than a topic title which catches your eye and has a long post giving a one sided view.
With unsubstantiated and incomplete figure many people would just read the first few posts and take it as fact and it may even swing their vote to the other side.
And to make matters worse, the more people post a reply the longer the posts stays in the 'recent posts' list and the more people read it.

I'm not advocating any non-democratic methods of viewing a forum but I am highlighting the possibility that Royal Mail has the motive, means and money to pay a psychology specialist to work out the best way to swing a vote.
k979aaa
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Re: It's a YES vote!!!!

Post by k979aaa »

The fact is you can always shoot them down with facts at hand in the end most will not vote anyway but every vote counts as they say!.
andy2007
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Re: It's a YES vote!!!!

Post by andy2007 »

Spot on K979aaa! Now is not the time to give up hope. Now is the time to counter the attempts to get a yes vote, with FACTS!
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
k979aaa
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Re: It's a YES vote!!!!

Post by k979aaa »

andy2007 wrote:Spot on K979aaa! Now is not the time to give up hope. Now is the time to counter the attempts to get a yes vote, with FACTS!
OK thanks may i start the ball rolling
1 YOU WILL FINNISH ON SATURDAY LATER

2 YOU WILL DO MORE DOOR TO DOOR AND BE GIVEN A £ 20.60 SUPPLEMENT WHICH INCLUDES ANY EARLY START MONEY

3 CROSS FUNCTION WILL BE FULLY ENABLED

4 ALL THE MONEY THEY ARE GIVING US IS MONEY ALREADY PROMISED TO US UNDER COLLEGE SHARES

Sorry it took so long but just four good reasons for voting against this agreement
andy2007
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Here's 4 more

Post by andy2007 »

And don't forget:
1) The workloads won't change, because the deal contains no garantees. So RM won't "play ball".
2) WCM will be used to cut resources, and little (if anything) else. And will be introduced in DOs, as well as MC/RDCs.
3) The people who'll gain financially, will do so at the expense of other Posties.
4) Part-timers will take another hit.
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
BELIAL
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Re: It's a YES vote!!!!

Post by BELIAL »

Spedley wrote:I can't help get the feeling that there are a lot of 'official' posters on this forum.

What better propaganda than a topic title which catches your eye and has a long post giving a one sided view.
With unsubstantiated and incomplete figure many people would just read the first few posts and take it as fact and it may even swing their vote to the other side.
And to make matters worse, the more people post a reply the longer the posts stays in the 'recent posts' list and the more people read it.

I'm not advocating any non-democratic methods of viewing a forum but I am highlighting the possibility that Royal Mail has the motive, means and money to pay a psychology specialist to work out the best way to swing a vote.
:chuckle :chuckle Think you proved your point there :chuckle Oh bugger :chuckle :chuckle
Bye
pickaname
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Re: It's a YES vote!!!!

Post by pickaname »

Voting yes is a vote for full privatisation.

You forgot that one.
steven100
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Re: It's a YES vote!!!!

Post by steven100 »

It don't think it matters whether a YES vote or No vote we will be privatised. If the deal goes through, new employees, new contract terms and this deal counts for he haw.
CWU asking us to vote when pension etc are not resolved is just a joke.
proper postie
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Re: It's a YES vote!!!!

Post by proper postie »

k979aaa wrote:
andy2007 wrote:Spot on K979aaa! Now is not the time to give up hope. Now is the time to counter the attempts to get a yes vote, with FACTS!
OK thanks may i start the ball rolling
1 YOU WILL FINNISH ON SATURDAY LATER

2 YOU WILL DO MORE DOOR TO DOOR AND BE GIVEN A £ 20.60 SUPPLEMENT WHICH INCLUDES ANY EARLY START MONEY

3 CROSS FUNCTION WILL BE FULLY ENABLED

4 ALL THE MONEY THEY ARE GIVING US IS MONEY ALREADY PROMISED TO US UNDER COLLEGE SHARES

Sorry it took so long but just four good reasons for voting against this agreement
You forgot that the £20.60 supplement is pro rata,only those on 39 hour contracts will actually see the full £20.60.
Bizarrely though,people working in the callers office,locker,back shift etc will get the full supplement without actually delivering any of them.
andy2007
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Re: It's a YES vote!!!!

Post by andy2007 »

I didn't though. Please see my points 3 and 4.
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!