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Is this a deal to protect FT jobs in London.

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gb93
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Is this a deal to protect FT jobs in London.

Post by gb93 »

This thought has just struk me and feel slightly ashamed for it doing so but.

75/25 split is allready shot throughout the country apart from London.

D2d into workload props up 4 day weeks.

Does longer Saturdays effect London offices ?

In the interest of fairness the TOP 10% thing probably does effect London if RM are to be trusted.

I am prepared for the flak or support, it was just a thought.

OH NO DONT BE TOO HARSH WHAT HAVE I SAID, CONTRADICTIONS FROM ME :crazy: .
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Post by belle smith »

gb93 wrote:This thought has just struk me and feel slightly ashamed for it doing so but.

75/25 split is allready shot throughout the country apart from London.

D2d into workload props up 4 day weeks.

Does longer Saturdays effect London offices ?

In the interest of fairness the TOP 10% thing probably does effect London if RM are to be trusted.

I am prepared for the flak or support, it was just a thought.

OH NO DONT BE TOO HARSH WHAT HAVE I SAID, CONTRADICTIONS FROM ME :crazy: .
The later Saturdays effects everyone!!
4 day weeks will be on offer to everyone. (as they were before)
London may or may not end up with a higher proportion of F/T. (in my opinion i think they will)
Lots of the posters on hear from London are opposed!! THIS IS NOT LONDON versus EVERYONE ELSE!!! you did say you were prepared for flak. :wink:
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Agreed thoughtout the whole campaign it's been London this London that! Don't royal mail cover the whole of the UK?
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Post by gb93 »

Fair enough Belle you make some valid points.

Just a question is Saturdays covered by SA in London.
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Post by belle smith »

gb93 wrote:Fair enough Belle you make some valid points.

Just a question is Saturdays covered by SA in London.
I don't know....i don't think so, maybe a London poster can clear that up for you.
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Post by westlondonpostie »

gb93 wrote:Fair enough Belle you make some valid points.

Just a question is Saturdays covered by SA in London.

No, not in my Office.
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Well going by your name Westlondonpostie.

You went very easy on me :Very Happy Hope it continues in same vein.

And thanks for answering my question about SA.
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gb93 wrote:Well going by your name Westlondonpostie.

You went very easy on me :Very Happy Hope it continues in same vein.

And thanks for answering my question about SA.
No worries mate, down here in the smoke were getting used to everyone blaming us, :wave
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Post by Martin Walsh »

No London is not covered by sa on Saturdays. Yes London has mostly full timers because in the main we have opposed royal mails plans to turn the job into a part time industry. It is a shame some other areas didt take a stand as some have almost 50 per cent part timers. London will see an increase in part timers but the retention of delivery in london is not good. Under this deal I know some reps who will be looking at having Saturday on part timers or a four day week with Friday and Saturdays being covered by a part timer on 20 hours.
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Thanks for the post dingo.

In my humble opinion the best post you have done to date regarding the agreement.

And that good we got it twice.

My faith is somewhat restored. (Easily pleased i know)
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dingo wrote:No London is not covered by sa on Saturdays. Yes London has mostly full timers because in the main we have opposed royal mails plans to turn the job into a part time industry. It is a shame some other areas didt take a stand as some have almost 50 per cent part timers. London will see an increase in part timers but the retention of delivery in london is not good. Under this deal I know some reps who will be looking at having Saturday on part timers or a four day week with Friday and Saturdays being covered by a part timer on 20 hours.
Is this true? Could friday/saturday covered by part time only come to the south and not just london?
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Post by dazzlin72 »

Dingo, our office is opposed to RM trying to make the business PT, but the fact still remains that 5 FT duties have gone from our office since Christmas through sackings, ill health, and retirement, and we are just expected to cope. These positions wont be filled by making PTs up to a FT 40(39)hr contract, it will just be covered by new starters, existing PTs, or by absorbing.
This is how slowly but surely the RM will make the business PT.
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Post by Danelectro »

pickaname wrote:
dingo wrote:No London is not covered by sa on Saturdays. Yes London has mostly full timers because in the main we have opposed royal mails plans to turn the job into a part time industry. It is a shame some other areas didt take a stand as some have almost 50 per cent part timers. London will see an increase in part timers but the retention of delivery in london is not good. Under this deal I know some reps who will be looking at having Saturday on part timers or a four day week with Friday and Saturdays being covered by a part timer on 20 hours.
Is this true? Could friday/saturday covered by part time only come to the south and not just london?
Ive heard this mentioned on here before and by somebody locally.

I can see a lot of long term F/T's and those high up the seniority list thinking 'I might as well get the weekend off in this hell hole-I deserve it!' and they probably do, but its at the expense of P/T's some of who have worked in Royal Mail for many years.

Anyway it still dosnt change my NO vote!
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dingo wrote:No London is not covered by sa on Saturdays. Yes London has mostly full timers because in the main we have opposed royal mails plans to turn the job into a part time industry. It is a shame some other areas didt take a stand as some have almost 50 per cent part timers. London will see an increase in part timers but the retention of delivery in london is not good. Under this deal I know some reps who will be looking at having Saturday on part timers or a four day week with Friday and Saturdays being covered by a part timer on 20 hours.
I just wonder dingo if you can tell me why you think it is that many areas have such a high proportion of PT and I would cast your mind back to 2007 and the Pay and Modernisation Agreement and how about the buy down of hours scheme completely agreed by the CWU and even one of your faithful took it and is a unit Rep.
Lets not be overindulgent in self praise dingo, it was nothing to do with standing firm more to do with recruitment. Tell me, just as a matter of interest is the London loading allowance pro rata - it's not a trick question, I genuinely don't know.
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Post by beaker boy »

The only SA sats are in the DA & BR regions,also in Northern Ireland i believe.