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A few questions with reference to the agreement.

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Dave made me a slave
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A few questions with reference to the agreement.

Post by Dave made me a slave »

(1) Has anyone seen what Royal Mail was proposing BEFORE the CWU negotiated this deal over a period of 4 months? So we can see what EXACTLY what the CWU have supposedly changed/gained from what Royal Mail was proposing. I personally believe the agreement has not changed much if at all from what Royal Mail were proposing. And the 4 months were not used to negotiate the agreement but how the CWU were going to tell it's members.

(2) Would the CWU have gained that little bit more respect over this pathetic agreement if they had admitted that some people will be taking a pay cut to benefit others? Instead of dressing it up and trying to tell us we are ALL gaining.

(3) Anyone who is trying to sell this agreement surely must be asking themselves 'if this is such a good deal why am I trying so hard to convince people it is good'. The answer is quite simple-THE DEAL IS FAR FROM GOOD.
proper postie
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Re: A few questions with reference to the agreement.

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Dave made me a slave wrote:(1) Has anyone seen what Royal Mail was proposing BEFORE the CWU negotiated this deal over a period of 4 months? So we can see what EXACTLY what the CWU have supposedly changed/gained from what Royal Mail was proposing. I personally believe the agreement has not changed much if at all from what Royal Mail were proposing. And the 4 months were not used to negotiate the agreement but how the CWU were going to tell it's members.

(2) Would the CWU have gained that little bit more respect over this pathetic agreement if they had admitted that some people will be taking a pay cut to benefit others? Instead of dressing it up and trying to tell us we are ALL gaining.

(3) Anyone who is trying to sell this agreement surely must be asking themselves 'if this is such a good deal why am I trying so hard to convince people it is good'. The answer is quite simple-THE DEAL IS FAR FROM GOOD.
1.It was never made public,the terms might have been that Bob had to eat Adams shaved pubes on a crusty pizza for all we know.

2.No

3.That isn't a question
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Re: A few questions with reference to the agreement.

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proper postie wrote:
Dave made me a slave wrote:(1) Has anyone seen what Royal Mail was proposing BEFORE the CWU negotiated this deal over a period of 4 months? So we can see what EXACTLY what the CWU have supposedly changed/gained from what Royal Mail was proposing. I personally believe the agreement has not changed much if at all from what Royal Mail were proposing. And the 4 months were not used to negotiate the agreement but how the CWU were going to tell it's members.

(2) Would the CWU have gained that little bit more respect over this pathetic agreement if they had admitted that some people will be taking a pay cut to benefit others? Instead of dressing it up and trying to tell us we are ALL gaining.

(3) Anyone who is trying to sell this agreement surely must be asking themselves 'if this is such a good deal why am I trying so hard to convince people it is good'. The answer is quite simple-THE DEAL IS FAR FROM GOOD.
1.It was never made public,the terms might have been that Bob had to eat Adams shaved pubes on a crusty pizza for all we know.

2.No

3.That isn't a question
1 Probably thought it was chives
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Re: A few questions with reference to the agreement.

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In answer to 1 .
I have been informed that RM's original plans included ;
the creation of death camps for all those who cut off
the creation of a junior trainee brigade unpaid and staffed by young offenders as an alternative to community service
Suspending all wage payments until the pension deficit and management bonuses were fully funded , then converting the pension fund to a management share issue.
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Re: A few questions with reference to the agreement.

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BELIAL wrote:In answer to 1 .
I have been informed that RM's original plans included ;
the creation of death camps for all those who cut off
the creation of a junior trainee brigade unpaid and staffed by young offenders as an alternative to community service
Suspending all wage payments until the pension deficit and management bonuses were fully funded , then converting the pension fund to a management share issue.
Transferable to ITV to pay this man's wages :cfo we can look forward to his maiden performance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pLz0G0m ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo
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Re: A few questions with reference to the agreement.

Post by belle smith »

Dave made me a slave wrote:(2) Would the CWU have gained that little bit more respect over this pathetic agreement if they had admitted that some people will be taking a pay cut to benefit others? Instead of dressing it up and trying to tell us we are ALL gaining.
It would make it a whole lot easier to explain a no vote!
As things stand we are going to look like a bunch of malcontents if theres a no!
dvbuk55
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Re: A few questions with reference to the agreement.

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BELIAL wrote:In answer to 1 .
I have been informed that RM's original plans included ;
the creation of death camps for all those who cut off
the creation of a junior trainee brigade unpaid and staffed by young offenders as an alternative to community service
Suspending all wage payments until the pension deficit and management bonuses were fully funded , then converting the pension fund to a management share issue.
Were there any plans for a sort of Peoples CDV, well off the top of my head, say air cooled engine and cheap and reliable.
pickaname
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Re: A few questions with reference to the agreement.

Post by pickaname »

dvbuk55 wrote:
BELIAL wrote:In answer to 1 .
I have been informed that RM's original plans included ;
the creation of death camps for all those who cut off
the creation of a junior trainee brigade unpaid and staffed by young offenders as an alternative to community service
Suspending all wage payments until the pension deficit and management bonuses were fully funded , then converting the pension fund to a management share issue.
Were there any plans for a sort of Peoples CDV, well off the top of my head, say air cooled engine and cheap and reliable.
i was told by a manager the CDV's theyre getting would be electric "like they were years ago"
dvbuk55
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Re: A few questions with reference to the agreement.

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pickaname wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
BELIAL wrote:In answer to 1 .
I have been informed that RM's original plans included ;
the creation of death camps for all those who cut off
the creation of a junior trainee brigade unpaid and staffed by young offenders as an alternative to community service
Suspending all wage payments until the pension deficit and management bonuses were fully funded , then converting the pension fund to a management share issue.
Were there any plans for a sort of Peoples CDV, well off the top of my head, say air cooled engine and cheap and reliable.
i was told by a manager the CDV's theyre getting would be electric "like they were years ago"
I didn't know they had electric cars in 1935 p - my reference to a peoples CDV was in response to Belials reference to the death camps and hitler jugend :chuckle I know small things amuse small minds - I could probably fit mine in a bean tin.