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Why don't people just "Work To Their Time" ?

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Urban Smith
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Why don't people just "Work To Their Time" ?

Post by Urban Smith »

I read loads of posts from posties worried about extra workload etc.

Why worry ? Just work to your time (Cut Off)! It's simple ! Then see what RM do.

PS - Just a discussion point. Don't shoot me lol.
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Then see what RM will do

Performance standards Conduct Code.
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gb93 wrote:Then see what RM will do

Performance standards Conduct Code.
Please explain more.
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Urban Smith wrote:I read loads of posts from posties worried about extra workload etc.

Why worry ? Just work to your time (Cut Off)! It's simple ! Then see what RM do.

PS - Just a discussion point. Don't shoot me lol.
That works well when you have a nationally agreed maximum delivery span.
Not so well when you have a vaguly defined locally agreed optimum delivery span.
It's not always about how many hours you work but also what you are expected to do within those hours.
Since it would seem we are unlikely to see what performance standards are expected of us it is difficult to know exactly what RM will expect of us. :hmmmm
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fishtank wrote:
Urban Smith wrote:I read loads of posts from posties worried about extra workload etc.

Why worry ? Just work to your time (Cut Off)! It's simple ! Then see what RM do.

PS - Just a discussion point. Don't shoot me lol.
That works well when you have a nationally agreed maximum delivery span.
Not so well when you have a vaguly defined locally agreed optimum delivery span.
It's not always about how many hours you work but also what you are expected to do within those hours.
Since it would seem we are unlikely to see what performance standards are expected of us it is difficult to know exactly what RM will expect of us. :hmmmm
Unless I'm wrong you still have a set number of hours to work per day ?
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Urban Smith wrote:
fishtank wrote:
Urban Smith wrote:I read loads of posts from posties worried about extra workload etc.

Why worry ? Just work to your time (Cut Off)! It's simple ! Then see what RM do.

PS - Just a discussion point. Don't shoot me lol.
That works well when you have a nationally agreed maximum delivery span.
Not so well when you have a vaguly defined locally agreed optimum delivery span.
It's not always about how many hours you work but also what you are expected to do within those hours.
Since it would seem we are unlikely to see what performance standards are expected of us it is difficult to know exactly what RM will expect of us. :hmmmm
Unless I'm wrong you still have a set number of hours to work per day ?
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The big worry Urban is,the quicker you get your walk sequencing bundles the larger the walk.
So if your office gets them early and after you have prepped and tied up ect ect there is a possible 5hrs outside work to do then..............
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Post by pony »

There is big pressure from the managers to work over.
Not everyone can just say no to them.
They remind you about how easy it was monday.All well and good but its not always convenient to work till 2.30 on a saturday.
Pressure is the main reason people moan and don't always work to their times.
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Urban Smith wrote:I read loads of posts from posties worried about extra workload etc.

Why worry ? Just work to your time (Cut Off)! It's simple ! Then see what RM do.

PS - Just a discussion point. Don't shoot me lol.
Do you mean now or in the future? If its now , then yes cut off and dont forget its only a three and a half hour delivery span now.BUT! if its in the future, with uncapped delivery spans then be afraid,,,be very afraid...... :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
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ashadd wrote:
Urban Smith wrote:I read loads of posts from posties worried about extra workload etc.

Why worry ? Just work to your time (Cut Off)! It's simple ! Then see what RM do.

PS - Just a discussion point. Don't shoot me lol.
Do you mean now or in the future? If its now , then yes cut off and dont forget its only a three and a half hour delivery span now.BUT! if its in the future, with uncapped delivery spans then be afraid,,,be very afraid...... :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
I do understand the pressure some people are under, but uncapped delivery span does not mean you work beyond the hours for the day.
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A lot of people do not like telling their line manager they are working to their time because of the intimidation. In our office they threaten to take you off your own walk, move section, start you later etc etc etc.

Or if they are feeling a little kind they just gun for you....
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Pat Ostman wrote:A lot of people do not like telling their line manager they are working to their time because of the intimidation. In our office they threaten to take you off your own walk, move section, start you later etc etc etc.

Or if they are feeling a little kind they just gun for you....
Same thing happens in my office :sad:
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A lot of people do not like telling their line manager they are working to their time because of the intimidation.
As mentioned in another thread,where's the rest of the office when this is going on,and as mentioned in hundreds of threads on here,where's the rep?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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POSTMAN wrote:
A lot of people do not like telling their line manager they are working to their time because of the intimidation.
As mentioned in another thread,where's the rest of the office when this is going on,and as mentioned in hundreds of threads on here,where's the rep?

And the area rep...and branch....and division....and HQ....a lot of people posted missing in action. :sad:
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Post by thischarmingman27 »

Well put ‘Urban Smith’ …. I’ve been saying the same for years, we’re going down to a 39 hour working week, based on a 5 day week - take off your paid 40 minute break each day (=3.20) take the 3.20 off the 39 hours then where gonna be on a 35.40 week !!!

Think about the extra work… throwing walks in / d2d’s etc / extra packets / summer lapsing ….. Just work at a steady pace & as stated if you cant do the workload within the given time then cut off or book overtime.

It’s about time the delivery workers realised that its (in the main) themselves that have created this situation, all of the coming in early / rushing around / using cars / obsessions with overtime, that have made the job look easy and RM have therefore put more & more work on us all. RM have been laughing all the way to the bank for years, the amount of extra work done for free either by going in early or not having the bottle to book overtime, shame on any of you that fall into one of those two categories