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Not Enough Hours

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kendo1
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Not Enough Hours

Post by kendo1 »

Been thinking about all the new changes,and just cannot see how you can get all done within a 8 hour shift.

lets assume this new deal goes through.
CDV come in etc.

Your walk will be 4 hours say,
then you will have to deliver all the oversize packets,all the Tracked items and all the oversize Specials,So be genourous to RM alow 1 hour,

So we now up to 5 hours,
you then need travel time to get to your walk and back 15 min each way-say ,you then come back for your meal releif 40 min and go back out again another 30 min.You then need time to load van back up say 15 min,oh forgot to allow time for refueling and veichle checks say 20 min total.

your hours used now stand at 6.5 hours.

So this leaves you with 1.5 hours to get your mail prep it in redirections ,deads ,bundle up ,and que up to get your specials and to do ips all within 1.5 hours.
Guess this is why you will need to be in the top 10 percent .
I cannot see how this will work,1 postie doing everything.Unless the plan is to have longer shifts ?
wiganpostie
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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by wiganpostie »

After they install the Walk Sequencing Machines they will be installing Time Sequencing Machines, so that you can travel back in time at the end of your shift and deliver anything you've got left.
ashadd
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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by ashadd »

kendo1 wrote:Been thinking about all the new changes,and just cannot see how you can get all done within a 8 hour shift.

lets assume this new deal goes through.
CDV come in etc.

Your walk will be 4 hours say,
then you will have to deliver all the oversize packets,all the Tracked items and all the oversize Specials,So be genourous to RM alow 1 hour,

So we now up to 5 hours,
you then need travel time to get to your walk and back 15 min each way-say ,you then come back for your meal releif 40 min and go back out again another 30 min.You then need time to load van back up say 15 min,oh forgot to allow time for refueling and veichle checks say 20 min total.

your hours used now stand at 6.5 hours.



So this leaves you with 1.5 hours to get your mail prep it in redirections ,deads ,bundle up ,and que up to get your specials and to do ips all within 1.5 hours.
Guess this is why you will need to be in the top 10 percent .
I cannot see how this will work,1 postie doing everything.Unless the plan is to have longer shifts ?


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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by NewPostieUK »

kendo1 wrote:Been thinking about all the new changes,and just cannot see how you can get all done within a 8 hour shift.
Take away your travelling and breaks etc, and whatever is left is the amount of work you'll be given.

The various tools will be used to give you 6.5 hrs or whatever worth of work.

In theory.

Any doubts about this, just vote NO.
opgpat
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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by opgpat »

They want the extra to be done on OT. It's non-pensionable pay and saves them hiring more staff. Don't fall for it, ask for a round you can actually do in your time.
banner18
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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by banner18 »

Remember, the days will be longer than 8 hours to allow for a four day week.
frogger
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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by frogger »

what happens if one person in the van decides he wants to cut off but the other wants to carry on?
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

frogger wrote:what happens if one person in the van decides he wants to cut off but the other wants to carry on?
1. Driver want the docket - he takes partner back to DO and then goes back out.

2. Non Driver wants docket - Manager has too manage it either by sending another driver (who wants docket) out to swap vehicles or by arranging a pick up point and time with the non driver when he has finished what he can do in the time available without a vehicle.

On bugger I see the flaw in 2 :d'oh!
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Post by frogger »

cheers trueblue,was wondering.flaws appearing all the time.I ask my manager questions he replies"i know as much as you" i ask the union rep he replies"not sure will check it up for you",its a b****y disaster!
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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by fishtank »

banner18 wrote:Remember, the days will be longer than 8 hours to allow for a four day week.

Only if that is what your office wants and more importantly IF the workplan allows.
If you do not get your second 40% of WSM until 0900 or later or if you have no work in your D.O before 0600 then you can more or less kiss goodbye to your 4 day week. :wave
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Post by clashcityrocker »

fishtank wrote: Only if that is what your office wants and more importantly IF the workplan allows.
If you do not get your second 40% of WSM until 0900 or later or if you have no work in your D.O before 0600 then you can more or less kiss goodbye to your 4 day week. :wave
Who on delivery would seriously want a longer delivery to have a 4 day week?
Our PHG's used to work a 4 day week and they say it took a day to get over the 4 days. And that is sitting on your arse doing nowt all day.
The 4 day week isn't a brilliant idea.
And anyone who thinks it is, ain't thought it through.
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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by mucker »

What would happen if........

1.you have to work with someone who works slower than you?

2.you have to work with someone you dont get on with?

3.you can not get all the mail in the van?

4.you have to share a van,with someone who has BO

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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by k979aaa »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
frogger wrote:what happens if one person in the van decides he wants to cut off but the other wants to carry on?
1. Driver want the docket - he takes partner back to DO and then goes back out.

2. Non Driver wants docket - Manager has too manage it either by sending another driver (who wants docket) out to swap vehicles or by arranging a pick up point and time with the non driver when he has finished what he can do in the time available without a vehicle.

On bugger I see the flaw in 2 :d'oh!
Or just bully both and say vic and bob can do it why not you!. :hmmmm This is why this agreement is a failed agreement for it did not address the bullying issue to our satisfaction!. :evil/mad :evil/mad :evil/mad
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Re: Not Enough Hours

Post by k979aaa »

mucker wrote:What would happen if........

1.you have to work with someone who works slower than you?

2.you have to work with someone you dont get on with?

3.you can not get all the mail in the van?

4.you have to share a van,with someone who has BO

CDV'S the way forward,only royal fail could dream that one up.... :hmmmm :left:
1 work slower!.

2 grievance!.

3 go back to the office reload and take your break!.

4 febreze two bottles a week out of the first line fix should do it!.