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POLL: FT,PT,deliveries or another unit. VOTE HERE NOW!!!!!!!

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FT, PT, deliveries or another unit. How will you be voting on the agreement?

Poll ended at 14 Apr 2010, 20:31

I'm FULL-TIME on DELIVERIES and will be voting YES
32
10%
I'm FULL-TIME in ANOTHER UNIT and will be voting YES
10
3%
I'm PART-TIME on DELIVERIES and will be voting YES
6
2%
I'm PART-TIME in ANOTHER UNIT and will be voting YES
1
0%
I'm FULL-TIME on DELIVERIES and will be voting NO
179
56%
I'm FULL-TIME in ANOTHER UNIT and will be voting NO
10
3%
I'm PART-TIME on DELIVERIES and will be voting NO
80
25%
I'm PART-TIME in ANOTHER UNIT and will be voting NO
2
1%
 
Total votes: 320

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Post by Just_My_Opinion »

Please answer with total honest.
Last edited by Just_My_Opinion on 26 Mar 2010, 20:15, edited 2 times in total.
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A vote already from a part timer on deliveries. I got to be honest, I though this would have nul votes as they are going to lose the most.
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Just_My_Opinion wrote:A vote already from a part timer on deliveries. I got to be honest, I though this would have nul votes as they are going to lose the most.

Not all of them
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Big Daz wrote:
Just_My_Opinion wrote:A vote already from a part timer on deliveries. I got to be honest, I though this would have nul votes as they are going to lose the most.

Not all of them

Enlighten me please.
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Post by NewPostieUK »

Just_My_Opinion wrote:
Big Daz wrote:
Just_My_Opinion wrote:A vote already from a part timer on deliveries. I got to be honest, I though this would have nul votes as they are going to lose the most.

Not all of them

Enlighten me please.
Just guessing:

The ones that don't do door to doors (why not?) and don't get early shift premium will benefit.

The ones that use their cars will benefit, from fuel and other costs (when they get a van).

Just because someone benefits from the deal doesn't mean they should vote for it. If you vote NO, then we can go back and thrash out a better deal.

Cut the crap, just vote NO.
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Post by Big Daz »

2010 payrise is 5.20 for a 30 hour week

My ESA is £4.65

80% of DTD calls is 376 for me

376 X 3 = 1128 X 1.67 pence is £18.83

My supplement is £15.45

Some weeks I have 3 sets, some 2 sets, some 1 set, very rarely none, various PP item payments and sometime the higher paying ones turn up when I’m on leave, happened last month. So I go for the 18.83 figure X 43 weeks to work out my annual payment, this is £809.69

My payrise is 55 pence more than the amount of ESA I lose so that and the supplement combined is £16

£16 X 52 weeks = £832

2011 payrise and the SWW boosting the hourly rate means financially the proposed agreement is irrelevant for me as a individual so my judgement as a individual comes down to operational issues.
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Post by Just_My_Opinion »

Big Daz wrote:2010 payrise is 5.20 for a 30 hour week

My ESA is £4.65

80% of DTD calls is 376 for me

376 X 3 = 1128 X 1.67 pence is £18.83

My supplement is £15.45

Some weeks I have 3 sets, some 2 sets, some 1 set, very rarely none, various PP item payments and sometime the higher paying ones turn up when I’m on leave, happened last month. So I go for the 18.83 figure X 43 weeks to work out my annual payment, this is £809.69

My payrise is 55 pence more than the amount of ESA I lose so that and the supplement combined is £16

£16 X 52 weeks = £832

2011 payrise and the SWW boosting the hourly rate means financially the proposed agreement is irrelevant for me as a individual so my judgement as a individual comes down to operational issues.

Judging by the results of the poll so far, it's definitely a winner for part time staff on delivery.
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Just_My_Opinion wrote:
Big Daz wrote:2010 payrise is 5.20 for a 30 hour week

My ESA is £4.65

80% of DTD calls is 376 for me

376 X 3 = 1128 X 1.67 pence is £18.83

My supplement is £15.45

Some weeks I have 3 sets, some 2 sets, some 1 set, very rarely none, various PP item payments and sometime the higher paying ones turn up when I’m on leave, happened last month. So I go for the 18.83 figure X 43 weeks to work out my annual payment, this is £809.69

My payrise is 55 pence more than the amount of ESA I lose so that and the supplement combined is £16

£16 X 52 weeks = £832

2011 payrise and the SWW boosting the hourly rate means financially the proposed agreement is irrelevant for me as a individual so my judgement as a individual comes down to operational issues.

Judging by the results of the poll so far, it's definitely a winner for part time staff on delivery.
Any part timer on delivery that votes yes needs that hole in their head plugged.It's not even up for debate,part time delivery staff are getting shafted.
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Perhaps they're simply giving up, because of the old "what're you expecting if it's a no vote" argument. Aparently, it's being used in a lot of areas now. I guess RM are getting desperate!
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andy2007 wrote:Perhaps they're simply giving up, because of the old "what're you expecting if it's a no vote" argument. Aparently, it's being used in a lot of areas now. I guess RM are getting desperate!
"what're you expecting if it's a no vote"

I'm expecting cwu to get back around the table with rm and sort out a deal that doesn't leave us worse off than we are at present.

Far from happy with the present conditions but I'd take them any day of the week over this shambles of a proposal.Militant may be used as a derogatory term on here,but we could do with a few more militants in the workforce.
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proper postie wrote:
andy2007 wrote:Perhaps they're simply giving up, because of the old "what're you expecting if it's a no vote" argument. Aparently, it's being used in a lot of areas now. I guess RM are getting desperate!
"what're you expecting if it's a no vote"
Its an old trick, using fear of consequences, and its one that works on some otherwise RM would not keep using it on a local or national basis.

Examples which some may recognise:

If you don't agree with this proposal we will bring in the orgininal one.

If you don't agree with pegasus revision we will EA it at the higher speed.

If you don't deliver it all we'll do you for wilful delay.

If you fall ill we'll visit you. :left: :left: (slightly tongue in cheek)
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Dont forget third party inference as well.

' Well, all of your colleagues are saying that they think its a good deal'

Oldest trick in the book. If you get this one, ask them to give names of the people who have said this.
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Post by ziggy »

Part timer and I`m voting NO !! :Very Happy

but down to the amount in my office who are listening only to what they want to hear , I am expecting it to be voted in :arrrghhh Thats the only reason I will be staying in the union . . . . for the moment . I`ll be expecting their backing when I work strictly by the book :so there
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Trouble is Ziggy the new book if voted in, has less clarity than the old 2007 one. Its a manual for RM mayhem
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Lincox wrote:Trouble is Ziggy the new book if voted in, has less clarity than the old 2007 one. Its a manual for RM mayhem
I know but as far as I can see it`s the only defence we have if this gets voted in . I have no trust in RM or the CWU , my rep is recommending the deal :arrrghhh
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