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Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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Viewfindergeneral
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Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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I was wondering with so many part-timers losing out when it comes to pro-rata payments how many actual hours over their contracted hours they work on a regular basis. Personally I average over 7 hours extra per week since the start of the financial year. If this was the true basis for pro-rata hours then I would say I`m owed a fair bit of back pay with regards to past bonuses etc.
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We all hope that you are getting PAID for those extra hours! If not DON'T do them!
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Watchcote wrote:We all hope that you are getting PAID for those extra hours! If not DON'T do them!
You are mis-understanding what I am saying. Yes, I am getting paid for the hours I work over my contracted hours but the point I am making is the unfairness of the pro-rata payments we receive for various bonuses etc. when we average more than our contracted hours per year.
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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I agree! I've averaged 40 hours a week since last June and I'm a part-timer on 30hr contract! Think we get shafted always, holiday, bonuses, xmas supplements etc!
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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If this new deal goes through we should do pro rata D2D.
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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If the deal goes through, then they will be in our workload and would have to deliver them as it would be "wilful delay".
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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Im on a 30 hour contract and have done at least 2 hours overtime EVERY DAY that I have worked for 3 years. Although I am a reserve I ALWAYS cover a full time job. When I am on holiday my pay drops considerably. I think it must be illegal, but I don't know.
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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It must be time to take a stand against this exploitation of the workers. Any of you union big boys want to suggest what we can do?
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Post by midvillain »

when i first started, part timers weren't allowed to cover full time duties, and obviously if they do this, as they do in our office, it means that more full time jobs are needed.
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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Watchcote wrote:If the deal goes through, then they will be in our workload and would have to deliver them as it would be "wilful delay".
They are in our workload now, and will still be even if the deal doesn't go through.
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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yokel wrote:Im on a 30 hour contract and have done at least 2 hours overtime EVERY DAY that I have worked for 3 years. Although I am a reserve I ALWAYS cover a full time job. When I am on holiday my pay drops considerably. I think it must be illegal, but I don't know.

I do belive it is illegal, an RM employee took RM to an ET and won a claim of his/her average hours worked, re their holiday allowance.
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Post by Thunderthighs »

Yep, amazing how your whole working day is planned out, with NO regards for a break you're entitled too.
So, I generally claim the 20 mins at the end of the day as O/T.
If they can't work out a realistic work roster, tough on them for having to pay me O/T !

Usually though, and I suspect lots of P/Timers do this too, we don't claim, as it's too much hassle.
This will reult in a 25 - 30 hr working week, with at least 20% more time being worked, for no extra money.

Slave labour? Yep...
Biker Mouse
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

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hantsman wrote:
yokel wrote:Im on a 30 hour contract and have done at least 2 hours overtime EVERY DAY that I have worked for 3 years. Although I am a reserve I ALWAYS cover a full time job. When I am on holiday my pay drops considerably. I think it must be illegal, but I don't know.

I do belive it is illegal, an RM employee took RM to an ET and won a claim of his/her average hours worked, re their holiday allowance.
Any link or hard proof of this?? Think every part-timer would be interested in reading/seeing that!!
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Watchcote wrote:
hantsman wrote:
yokel wrote:Im on a 30 hour contract and have done at least 2 hours overtime EVERY DAY that I have worked for 3 years. Although I am a reserve I ALWAYS cover a full time job. When I am on holiday my pay drops considerably. I think it must be illegal, but I don't know.

I do belive it is illegal, an RM employee took RM to an ET and won a claim of his/her average hours worked, re their holiday allowance.
Any link or hard proof of this?? Think every part-timer would be interested in reading/seeing that!!
Some details on here I'll hunt it down and post a link

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... =1&t=17423" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 62#p162162" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There should be link or and info on those 2 threads hope it helps.
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Re: Contracted hours V actual hours worked

Post by Biker Mouse »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Watchcote wrote:
hantsman wrote:
yokel wrote:Im on a 30 hour contract and have done at least 2 hours overtime EVERY DAY that I have worked for 3 years. Although I am a reserve I ALWAYS cover a full time job. When I am on holiday my pay drops considerably. I think it must be illegal, but I don't know.

I do belive it is illegal, an RM employee took RM to an ET and won a claim of his/her average hours worked, re their holiday allowance.
Any link or hard proof of this?? Think every part-timer would be interested in reading/seeing that!!
Some details on here I'll hunt it down and post a link

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... =1&t=17423" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 62#p162162" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There should be link or and info on those 2 threads hope it helps.
Interesting links TBT! One thing puzzles me though, I am on a 30 hr contract working 6hrs x 5 days per week, but I am a reserve for full time job so work 10 hrs per week O/T (2hrs per day). Have been doing this for 10 months. My holiday entitlement according to RM is 22.5 days but the ACAS website says if I work 5 days per week I am entitled to 28! So at the moment I am getting 22.5 days @ 30 hrs, surely I should be entitled to 28 days @ 30hrs pay? Or am I getting mixed up?? :crazy: