management

[sameoldcr*p]

Bad management over last 15 years we pay the price over and over again VOTE NO

[sameoldcr*p]

ALL MANAGERS CALLED TO A MEETING ON MONDAY IN NORTHEAST AREA NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THE DEAL TILL AFTER THIS IT MUST BE TIME FOR THE HARD SELL, ROYALMAIL SLASH AND BURN AT IT'S BEST

[twocues]

ALL MANAGERS CALLED TO A MEETING ON MONDAY IN NORTHEAST AREA NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THE DEAL TILL AFTER THIS IT MUST BE TIME FOR THE HARD SELL, ROYALMAIL SLASH AND BURN AT IT'S BEST

your right there mate ? the manages from the eastern region have a meeting in stanstead on tuesday to sell us this s**t

[Martin Walsh]

All senior managers Regional Directors , DSMs and Mail centre Managers ( every senior manager who counted. ) A dickie bird tell me that Higson , Tolhurst and Cameron told all the managers that this new agreement heralded a new relationship with the union and they had to abide by it and to end old adversory relationship. Of course words are just words. However a couple of managers who have been around a number of years did say that they have never been to a senior managements meeting and been given this direction by the head of bussiness.

Of course most of us will still be highly suspicious as we always are and will judge by action rather than words. But Higson did state that the words in the agreement had to be adhered to and not managments local of regional interperations as it will be overseen by ACAS and Roger Poole which is unlike any other national agreement.

[baldrick]

Well we'll wait and see if their actions match their words.
It's hard to believe that a leopard can change it's spots so easily.

[Tamsky]

My experience of pay n mod was that directions management wise came from on high and there was no real local agreement.
RM local management ignored the Interim Agreement and I have no doubt what so ever that they will ignore the parts of this proposed agreement that benefit members eg more Sats off.
This is the weakest part of the leadership case - RM managers have not changed. They are strutting around waving budget savings in our face as we speak.

[trythat]

All senior managers Regional Directors , DSMs and Mail centre Managers ( every senior manager who counted. ) A dickie bird tell me that Higson , Tolhurst and Cameron told all the managers that this new agreement heralded a new relationship with the union and they had to abide by it and to end old adversory relationship. Of course words are just words. However a couple of managers who have been around a number of years did say that they have never been to a senior managements meeting and been given this direction by the head of bussiness.

Of course most of us will still be highly suspicious as we always are and will judge by action rather than words. But Higson did state that the words in the agreement had to be adhered to and not managments local of regional interperations as it will be overseen by ACAS and Roger Poole which is unlike any other national agreement.

If thats the case, why didn't the CWU get more national agreements, it's the local stuff that is hard to get and keep, I know from experience in my office, it's a nightmare, the only time we can garantee anything is when its a national agreement

[Danelectro]

All senior managers Regional Directors , DSMs and Mail centre Managers ( every senior manager who counted. ) A dickie bird tell me that Higson , Tolhurst and Cameron told all the managers that this new agreement heralded a new relationship with the union and they had to abide by it and to end old adversory relationship. Of course words are just words. However a couple of managers who have been around a number of years did say that they have never been to a senior managements meeting and been given this direction by the head of bussiness.

Of course most of us will still be highly suspicious as we always are and will judge by action rather than words. But Higson did state that the words in the agreement had to be adhered to and not managments local of regional interperations as it will be overseen by ACAS and Roger Poole which is unlike any other national agreement.

please take a holiday your clearly losing all sense of reality- none of the above will be held to account for jack s**t with this agreement,your gonna judge them by their actions not their words?,well what happens if you dont like their actions?tie them up and take them to a workshop or even better bring us out on strike?-the way things are going we wont have many members left,spent an hour today trying to persuade 3 people not to stop their subs and if the agreement goes ahead then its a mass exodus round my way.

[POSTMAN]

dingo,the problem is so many were burned with P&M,their questions to HQ would be,why would this be any different.
Words mean nothing,we had the words in 07,the words are still there but are ignore up and down the country.

Agreements on paper mean nothing to many in management.This is the big worry.

[DirtyHarry]

All senior managers Regional Directors , DSMs and Mail centre Managers ( every senior manager who counted. ) A dickie bird tell me that Higson , Tolhurst and Cameron told all the managers that this new agreement heralded a new relationship with the union and they had to abide by it and to end old adversory relationship. Of course words are just words. However a couple of managers who have been around a number of years did say that they have never been to a senior managements meeting and been given this direction by the head of bussiness.

Of course most of us will still be highly suspicious as we always are and will judge by action rather than words. But Higson did state that the words in the agreement had to be adhered to and not managments local of regional interperations as it will be overseen by ACAS and Roger Poole which is unlike any other national agreement.

Bloody hell, mate. I couldn't give two flying fecks whether managers pat me on the head or not, in fact, I'd feel more comfortable if they didn't.

[mondeoman1]

Got told by cover DOM this morning that all DOM'S in my area are having a meeting on Wednesday about the New Agreement. Should make Thursday an interesting day when DOM tries to sell this deal to us.

[tich0166]

Anybody dare to chat about Royal Mail Managers style of mangaging and an unprecedented number of suspensions and sackings for trivial mistakes-especially at a certain office in Newcastle?

[numan]

All senior managers Regional Directors , DSMs and Mail centre Managers ( every senior manager who counted. ) A dickie bird tell me that Higson , Tolhurst and Cameron told all the managers that this new agreement heralded a new relationship with the union and they had to abide by it and to end old adversory relationship. Of course words are just words. However a couple of managers who have been around a number of years did say that they have never been to a senior managements meeting and been given this direction by the head of bussiness.

Of course most of us will still be highly suspicious as we always are and will judge by action rather than words. But Higson did state that the words in the agreement had to be adhered to and not managments local of regional interperations as it will be overseen by ACAS and Roger Poole which is unlike any other national agreement.

And how will all this square with managers being told they must make savings year on year?

[sameoldcr*p]

Someone mention management skills non existant, man management non existant, they are just puppets trying to get as much bonus as possible by cutting hours

[BELIAL]

All senior managers Regional Directors , DSMs and Mail centre Managers ( every senior manager who counted. ) A dickie bird tell me that Higson , Tolhurst and Cameron told all the managers that this new agreement heralded a new relationship with the union and they had to abide by it and to end old adversory relationship. Of course words are just words. However a couple of managers who have been around a number of years did say that they have never been to a senior managements meeting and been given this direction by the head of bussiness.

Of course most of us will still be highly suspicious as we always are and will judge by action rather than words. But Higson did state that the words in the agreement had to be adhered to and not managments local of regional interperations as it will be overseen by ACAS and Roger Poole which is unlike any other national agreement.

And how will all this square with managers being told they must make savings year on year?

Exactly!
Managers will all be instructed to preach the agreement chapter and verse and simultaneously be ordered to make their 5% year on year savings. Just like now with health and safety ,no private cars, security of mail,bullying ,intimidation, illegal with-holding of wages it will all just be paying lip service to the rules and the never ending drive for increased profit will override it all