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part timers - time for us to fight
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el_cartero
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part timers - time for us to fight
Hi part timers this is el cartero( a well known anti cwu guy because of there attitude towards part timers)
i would like to point out that this new agreement has been constructed in such a way that part timers are going to be crucified and victimised badly. Its completly full time(cwu members) Orientated.
They are going to force us to carry 6 d2d a week 100% and only pay us around £10 a week for that privalidge.
They are also going to give us a very small pie in any lump sum while FTs will recieve over £1000. Probably causing there YES vote.While we scream for NO.
This is mainly because alot of part timers are no union members so they think they can abuse this as they dont think we have a voice.They think we are a good way of offloading problems on to us. HAve you noticed your walk is much harder than full timers walks? thas because they offloaded work onto part timers walks in 2007 making the last deal get through nice and easily.
Have you ever talked to a full timer that constantly cant complete due to a well over walk. doubtfull.
Told we will never get a full time job is unnaceptable.
I am thinking of ways to topple the CWU for a new union that respects part timers.
EDIT - There will be a new part timers union PFC ( that will challenge the CWU's decisions) and its free to be a member.
All we ask for is your full support - we are not fat cats and are not controlled by RM.
expecting us to prep and deliver d2d the same as fters do but pay us half the amount - is illegal
if u are a member of the union please start our fight by voting no.
any PRO cwu members that try to dystroy this thread just ignore it. full timers know whats happening to us but choose to support the CWU as they benifit from this .They will ignore us at work. we are basically the bitches of the office.
the CWU has proven to regard part timers a good way of making savings for royal mail not considering our rights and are prepared to challenge employment law to insure we are put into this situation.
If a CWU reprasentative would like to comment - would be welcome. Any idiotic and unhelpfull attacks are not.
i would warn all full timers to support there part timers fight because as we all know RM want everyone to be part time.
So this agreement may well effect themselves in a few years time.
ill keep you posted.
i would like to point out that this new agreement has been constructed in such a way that part timers are going to be crucified and victimised badly. Its completly full time(cwu members) Orientated.
They are going to force us to carry 6 d2d a week 100% and only pay us around £10 a week for that privalidge.
They are also going to give us a very small pie in any lump sum while FTs will recieve over £1000. Probably causing there YES vote.While we scream for NO.
This is mainly because alot of part timers are no union members so they think they can abuse this as they dont think we have a voice.They think we are a good way of offloading problems on to us. HAve you noticed your walk is much harder than full timers walks? thas because they offloaded work onto part timers walks in 2007 making the last deal get through nice and easily.
Have you ever talked to a full timer that constantly cant complete due to a well over walk. doubtfull.
Told we will never get a full time job is unnaceptable.
I am thinking of ways to topple the CWU for a new union that respects part timers.
EDIT - There will be a new part timers union PFC ( that will challenge the CWU's decisions) and its free to be a member.
All we ask for is your full support - we are not fat cats and are not controlled by RM.
expecting us to prep and deliver d2d the same as fters do but pay us half the amount - is illegal
if u are a member of the union please start our fight by voting no.
any PRO cwu members that try to dystroy this thread just ignore it. full timers know whats happening to us but choose to support the CWU as they benifit from this .They will ignore us at work. we are basically the bitches of the office.
the CWU has proven to regard part timers a good way of making savings for royal mail not considering our rights and are prepared to challenge employment law to insure we are put into this situation.
If a CWU reprasentative would like to comment - would be welcome. Any idiotic and unhelpfull attacks are not.
i would warn all full timers to support there part timers fight because as we all know RM want everyone to be part time.
So this agreement may well effect themselves in a few years time.
ill keep you posted.
Last edited by el_cartero on 06 Mar 2010, 19:19, edited 19 times in total.
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
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k979aaa
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
Are you sure you are not :cfo i can smell a rat!.el_cartero wrote:Hi part timers this is el cartero( a well known anti cwu guy because of there attitude towards part timers)
i would like to point out that this new agreement has been constructed in such a way that part timers are going to be crucified badly.
They are going to force us to carry 6 d2d a week 100% and only pay us around £10 a week for that privalidge.
I am thinking of ways to topple the CWU .
ill keep you posted.
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pornstar
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
u r talkin shite!
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Flukester
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
I am also a part timer and a cwu member, i agree with you totally!!
Whatever the forthcoming agreement brings, at this moment in time we our treated like pariah by our full time colleagues.
Which seems to be activily encouraged by the Royal Mail management.
Whatever the forthcoming agreement brings, at this moment in time we our treated like pariah by our full time colleagues.
Which seems to be activily encouraged by the Royal Mail management.
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mailmonkey
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
I'm a part timer.
I'm a union member and always have been.
This "deal" is s**t for all of us, P/T, or F/T.....
We all need to stick together, I can't believe the full-timers will be any keener to vote this "deal" in than we are.
I do think that we, as part timers, are sometimes discriminated against, but we all need to work together to oppose this load of old flannel from CWU HQ/RM...
:lfo :cfo :mfo
el cartero, you're taking this too far IMO and doing nobody any favours.
MM
I'm a union member and always have been.
This "deal" is s**t for all of us, P/T, or F/T.....
We all need to stick together, I can't believe the full-timers will be any keener to vote this "deal" in than we are.
I do think that we, as part timers, are sometimes discriminated against, but we all need to work together to oppose this load of old flannel from CWU HQ/RM...
:lfo :cfo :mfo
el cartero, you're taking this too far IMO and doing nobody any favours.
MM
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el_cartero
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
"I am thinking of ways to topple the CWU for a new union that respects part timers"
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
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peapodgang
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- Joined: 09 Aug 2007, 09:20
Re: part timers - time for us to fight
I dont go for all this full time/part time s**t it's bad enough being in this mess but to be in it divided is just playing into Royal Mails hands. The deal although I haven't seen it is a disgrace for all concerned but if we fight amongst ourselves defeat is inevitable.
No to divide and rule and no to this crock of s**t.
No to divide and rule and no to this crock of s**t.
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numan
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
el_cartero wrote:Hi part timers this is el cartero( a well known anti cwu guy because of there attitude towards part timers)
i would like to point out that this new agreement has been constructed in such a way that part timers are going to be crucified badly.
They are going to force us to carry 6 d2d a week 100% and only pay us around £10 a week for that privalidge.
They are also going to give us a very small pie in any lump sum while FTs will recieve over £1000. Probably causing there YES vote.
This is mainly because alot of part timers are no union members so they think they can abuse this as they dont think we have a voice.They think we are a good way of offloading problems on to us. HAve you noticed your walk is much harder than full timers walks? thas because they offloaded work onto part timers walks in 2007 makind the last deal get through nice and easily.
Have you ever talked to a full timer that constantly cant complete due to a well over walk. doubtfull.
I am thinking of ways to topple the CWU for a new union that respects part timers.
You do a lot of moaning but it sounds like you can't even stand up for yourself, so it's hard to see you being much use fighting for anybody else.
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Flukester
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
Lets face facts, we all need to understand.
Part timer or Fulltimer We all work for the same company!!
We all walk the same streets, carry the same weight, take the same s**t!!
So there shouldn't be any diffirential in the deal.
The only difference is how long where given to complete, not what we complete as that theres no difference.
Part timer or Fulltimer We all work for the same company!!
We all walk the same streets, carry the same weight, take the same s**t!!
So there shouldn't be any diffirential in the deal.
The only difference is how long where given to complete, not what we complete as that theres no difference.
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andy2007
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
If you're so keen to have a different Union representing you. You should join one, and encourage others to do so. What you certainly SHOULDN'T be doing, is trying to undermine the Union which currently represents us.el_cartero wrote:"I am thinking of ways to topple the CWU for a new union that respects part timers"
Don't knock Insanity
it's just another outlook on Reality!
it's just another outlook on Reality!
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el_cartero
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
i admit i might not have best skills etc to lead this campaign but u cant expect there not to be a back lash.
i appreciate all staff and i want fters to realise that what rm is doing is maxing out a s**t job which is PT.
and this is what you guys are going to be so please dont ignore what is happenign to part timers.
thanks
i appreciate all staff and i want fters to realise that what rm is doing is maxing out a s**t job which is PT.
and this is what you guys are going to be so please dont ignore what is happenign to part timers.
thanks
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
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k979aaa
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
DIVIDE AND RULE THE OLDEST MANAGEMENT TRICK IN THE BOOK!.el_cartero wrote:"I am thinking of ways to topple the CWU for a new union that respects part timers"
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HootyMacBoob
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
They tried the London v the rest of the UK trick k979aaa now they are trying the P/T v F/T trick hopefully el cid cartero will think again and pull back on his bid to become the new P/T General Sec of the CWU.k979aaa wrote:DIVIDE AND RULE THE OLDEST MANAGEMENT TRICK IN THE BOOK!.el_cartero wrote:"I am thinking of ways to topple the CWU for a new union that respects part timers"
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el_cartero
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Re: part timers - time for us to fight
Our organisation PFC - part timers for change
does not recognise - the term "DIVIDE AND RULE"
thats what they want us to think it is .. wen its not .. its just bluntly what ive said in my opening statement.
does not recognise - the term "DIVIDE AND RULE"
thats what they want us to think it is .. wen its not .. its just bluntly what ive said in my opening statement.
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers