From the leaked document:
Royal Mail and the CWU agree that the length of the delivery span can now be an enabler in bringing about mutual benefits. From now on, within the process of duty revision negotiations, spans must be looked at in the context of an enabler rather than a fixed amount of time to be aimed at.
In essence, the span will no longer be an objective in itself. Instead office revisions should look to define a set of revision objectives in line with the delivery revision process and then negotiate and agree a duty span/structure that best meets these objectives, taking into account local factors and safety issues in route design
What does this mean in plain English?
We can have new walks lasting from 20 minutes to........?
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"enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
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creedscat
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Re: "enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
I would'nt worry too much in regards to thier wording as this will be thrown out anyway. You would have to be fooking insane to accept this pile of shiiite.dropbag_clone wrote:From the leaked document:
Royal Mail and the CWU agree that the length of the delivery span can now be an enabler in bringing about mutual benefits. From now on, within the process of duty revision negotiations, spans must be looked at in the context of an enabler rather than a fixed amount of time to be aimed at.
In essence, the span will no longer be an objective in itself. Instead office revisions should look to define a set of revision objectives in line with the delivery revision process and then negotiate and agree a duty span/structure that best meets these objectives, taking into account local factors and safety issues in route design
What does this mean in plain English?
We can have new walks lasting from 20 minutes to........?
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nelson
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Re: "enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
It can and will be misused. No set time for delivery. It will need a very strong rep in the office. Weak offices will be pooped on
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pjthebear
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Re: "enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
It means royal mail will give you a van so you can start delivering at dawn and finish at dusk!
Can hear managent now saying " we've taken the weight off your shoulder so now you can walk hours longer" !!!
Can hear managent now saying " we've taken the weight off your shoulder so now you can walk hours longer" !!!
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creedscat
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Re: "enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
For less pay.pjthebear wrote:It means royal mail will give you a van so you can start delivering at dawn and finish at dusk!
Can hear managent now saying " we've taken the weight off your shoulder so now you can walk hours longer" !!!
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Puppetmaster
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Re: "enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
This was how I read it ,you will complete your delivery regardless of hours or days it takes to do.
I thought the CWU had a commitment to produce Documents in plain English.
I thought the CWU had a commitment to produce Documents in plain English.
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fishtank
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Re: "enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
nelson wrote:It can and will be misused. No set time for delivery. It will need a very strong rep in the office. Weak offices will be pooped on
Even strong reps need strong agreements.
That pile of sh*te is no help to anybody.
Combine that with RMs plan to increase everyones performance in line with the top 10% and the rep will spend most of his time dealing with attendance standards as most people end up long term sick.
The more times i read this deal the worse it gets.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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POSTMAN
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Re: "enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
You can set your delivery length by local revisions.
Once you have an agreement,RM then will not be able to take the piss out of you.
Chances are my place will go back to 4hrs and a 4 day week.
Once you have an agreement,RM then will not be able to take the piss out of you.
Chances are my place will go back to 4hrs and a 4 day week.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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hampshireman
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Re: "enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
The word 'enabler was in the 2010 agreement.dropbag_clone wrote:From the leaked document:
Royal Mail and the CWU agree that the length of the delivery span can now be an enabler in bringing about mutual benefits. From now on, within the process of duty revision negotiations, spans must be looked at in the context of an enabler rather than a fixed amount of time to be aimed at.
In essence, the span will no longer be an objective in itself. Instead office revisions should look to define a set of revision objectives in line with the delivery revision process and then negotiate and agree a duty span/structure that best meets these objectives, taking into account local factors and safety issues in route design
What does this mean in plain English?
We can have new walks lasting from 20 minutes to........?
This was the most scary word.
It means that the outdoor span for deliveries can be anything
So (just suppose) , if you were on an 8 hr contract ; but the indoor time was the square root of bugger all. How long would you be out on delivery?
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: "enabler in bringing about mutual benefits"
theoretically 7.10 hours not including 40 minute breaks and 10 minutes drivers checks.
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