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will my leave stretch further on the 4 day week?

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will my leave stretch further on the 4 day week?

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With talk of the 4 day week being made available nationally in the new agreement I was wondering if my annual leave will stretch further if I only work 4 days a week.
I currently get 23.5 days a year. On a 5 day week this gives me 4 weeks + 3.5 days leave.
If i'm on the 4 day week does that mean my 23.5 days will give me 5 weeks and 3.5 days due to me only using 4 days for a weeks leave?

I'm not sure. someone told me your leave might be adjusted pro-rata. can anyone let me know. cheers?
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It goes 19.5 days,which is 4 weeks and 3.5days.
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How does this work if you buy the right to 6weeks holiday ? Is it just the same ?
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jobies wrote:How does this work if you buy the right to 6weeks holiday ? Is it just the same ?

If your on 4 day week 1 week=4days 6 weeks=24 days
If your on 5 day week 1 week=5days 6 weeks=30 days
Simple.
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GHOSTman wrote: If i'm on the 4 day week does that mean my 23.5 days will give me 5 weeks and 3.5 days due to me only using 4 days for a weeks leave?
Nice try GHOSTman. But if your theory was correct, don't you think everybody would be banging on the DIMs door, begging to go on a 4-day week ?

You still get the same TOTAL leave entitlement, in terms of days. They just show it as 4/5ths of what a 5-day week person would get, I think.
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Carnoustie wrote:
GHOSTman wrote: If i'm on the 4 day week does that mean my 23.5 days will give me 5 weeks and 3.5 days due to me only using 4 days for a weeks leave?
Nice try GHOSTman. But if your theory was correct, don't you think everybody would be banging on the DIMs door, begging to go on a 4-day week ?

You still get the same TOTAL leave entitlement, in terms of days. They just show it as 4/5ths of what a 5-day week person would get, I think.
Damn! ....and i would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids. :chuckle

So if I were to buy extra leave to take me up to the 6 weeks ...I'd still only get 6 weeks! :Boo hoo!
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GHOSTman wrote:
Carnoustie wrote:
GHOSTman wrote: If i'm on the 4 day week does that mean my 23.5 days will give me 5 weeks and 3.5 days due to me only using 4 days for a weeks leave?
Nice try GHOSTman. But if your theory was correct, don't you think everybody would be banging on the DIMs door, begging to go on a 4-day week ?

You still get the same TOTAL leave entitlement, in terms of days. They just show it as 4/5ths of what a 5-day week person would get, I think.
Damn! ....and i would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids. :chuckle

So if I were to buy extra leave to take me up to the 6 weeks ...I'd still only get 6 weeks! :Boo hoo!
LOL it's a bummer aint it.
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We enquired about 4 day weeks and sector manager said to area rep...I don,t think that is going to happen :crazy: the tossa has already made up his mind even before the deal is dry, well we will see about that mr manager sir :so there
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Captain Scarlet wrote:We enquired about 4 day weeks and sector manager said to area rep...I don,t think that is going to happen :crazy: the tossa has already made up his mind even before the deal is dry, well we will see about that mr manager sir :so there
London are going through the motions to get their 4 day weeks back,once that is sorted,that should be used as a blue print for the rest of the UK.
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apparently we're going to be looking at it in work time learning next week, and finding out people's preferences for different working hours. fingers crossed for this too, i could happily do four ten hour days.
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NO as one week is 24 27 30 35 40 hours all weeks are based on contracts i only get 5 and 1 day!.
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GHOSTman wrote:
So if I were to buy extra leave to take me up to the 6 weeks ...I'd still only get 6 weeks! :Boo hoo!
Or you be lucky like a mate of mine. He bought the extra leave for a couple of years, then changed his mind.

The deductions from his pay stopped, but ...
if your DIM's as dim as our DIM, he still allocates you 24 days... which for a 4-day week person, is 6 weeks leave :dance

Not very often somebody gets one over on RM, so :shhhhh :shhhhh :shhhhh :shhhhh
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Carnoustie wrote:
GHOSTman wrote:
So if I were to buy extra leave to take me up to the 6 weeks ...I'd still only get 6 weeks! :Boo hoo!
Or you be lucky like a mate of mine. He bought the extra leave for a couple of years, then changed his mind.

The deductions from his pay stopped, but ...
if your DIM's as dim as our DIM, he still allocates you 24 days... which for a 4-day week person, is 6 weeks leave :dance

Not very often somebody gets one over on RM, so :shhhhh :shhhhh :shhhhh :shhhhh

Nice one! :Applause let's hear it for his dim DIM :left:
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When the 4 day week was first discussed after the 2007 agreement, I asked if part time staff would be offered it. Guess what...No.
So, if an office goes to a 4 day week, will the part timers still have to work 5 days?
I don't want to turn this into a f/t versus p/t post, but why should any part timer vote to accept this when it is of no benefit to them? Part timers are treated shamefully by RM, and usually forgotten by the CWU, but make up an increasing number of CWU members, so where is the carrot for them, we've already had the stick.
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i want 4 on 4 off... also as part timer but.....

would that mean a reduction in contract hours?
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers