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Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

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tragictramp
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Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

Post by tragictramp »

Hi People,

went into work today, my normal start time on a thursday is half 8 with 1pm finish, not 1 letter was prepped for my walk so i went to see the most senior manager as the dom is at another depot. told him nothing was thrown out and that i need to finish on my time 1pm as i had stuff planned for the afternoon, at which point he told me that i should be in at half 7 to prep the walk as my rolling day off is friday in which i prep my own walk on fridays, i told him this was rubbish and that i have been doing the same hours since jan 09 as agreed when i took the walk on. after discussing it he then informed me that to prep and deliver the walk i would only be paid 6 hrs not 6hrs 36 which is what all the f/timers are allocated in which to do the job. I told him this was nonsense and why should i be able to do the same amount of work in less time, in which he told me that he has the right to change my hours to whatever he feels like, again i told him this was rubbish - he even had the cheek to say to me that hr lucky for me will not be attempting to claim back hours for the last year :crazy: .

In my office the agreed prep and delivery is 6hrs 36 but he has now come up with just me and a couple of other part timers should do it in 6 hrs and book if going over, he has also now said that if i book a friday or saturday off as annual leave then i will be expected to give these extra hours back during the week. no chance.

i even worked out the hours i work over a 6 week period and in my figures with 6h36 prep and walk i average 24.5 hrs so in fact they should owe me money, in working to their new hrs i will be working 24.3hrs on average but in reality having to do more work within the same time span, they have really pissed me off with this - suddenly deciding that i should be in early, its pathetic and damn rude.

Would it be classed as biased if they give different people different time scales to do the same job?

also in this discussion he said he could choose whatever hours he wanted me to work whenever he wished and could also terminate my contract at any time.

Today was a shambles all round with several walks not prepped for the part timers/hybrid duties - this i believe is due to the main dom not being their as tbh the place runs a lot smoother when he's their. Next week its my long weekend so in their magic wisdom i should come in early thursday, i will not be doing this so would i merit any disciplinary action against me?

:mfo
el_cartero
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Re: Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

Post by el_cartero »

thats because part timers are seen as s**t rags that they can wipe there dirty money saving arses all over u.

but they know they cant do the same to full timers.
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
tragictramp
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Re: Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

Post by tragictramp »

i aint gunna bow down to their lies and made up bullshit, i think that if i have agreed a set of hours, these are binding and as such they cannot just do what they wish.
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Re: Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

Post by Caniel »

Go see your union rep.
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Re: Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

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Moved into Union Room so a rep can give some advice.

A couple of things - they cannot change your contract without you signing the changes unless its a collective agreement as in National or local that affects everyone.

You will need to see you local or area rep as they will be more aware of the local agreements but id does not seem right.


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Re: Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

Post by postghost »

It says in my contract that my hours can be "changed with due notice subject to requirements within the business"

Be careful.
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Re: Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

Post by bitchface »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Moved into Union Room so a rep can give some advice.

A couple of things - they cannot change your contract without you signing the changes unless its a collective agreement as in National or local that affects everyone.

You will need to see you local or area rep as they will be more aware of the local agreements but id does not seem right.


El Carteo - Please change the tune, or if replying to posts asking for advice please try and help rather than repeating the same basic post over and over again. Ta :Very Happy
this is wrong...any employer hAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE YOUR HOURS WITH "REASONABLE NOTICE"

secondly.you are only supposed to be paid the hours you actually work..not 6.36 minutes no matter what.so your manager is right

you are part time like myself.so just do those hours.and bugger off home.if yours change day to day then just tot up on saturday see if you need to go in at all.swings and roundabouts they call it,flexability
tragictramp
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Re: Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

Post by tragictramp »

they have now asked me if i wish to do just 4 days at 6 hrs, sounds good other than id still get half hr less to do the job than a full timer, also id imagine that they would stop my rotating day off and probably have me off on the 2 lightest days tuesday for definite, ill see what they say monday cos i think i shoudl still have rotating days off considering it is my walk.
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Re: Change of hours suddenly and without agreement - lies

Post by bitchface »

we got a guy on a four day week,but he gets 7 hours to do it.his original contract being 28 hrs.
he does cover for us now,does no d2ds,no redirections,and delivers anywhere he likes..
needless to say no matter what day he gets home early,and the manager uses him as an example of how not to claim overtime..if he doesnt claim it why do you..
im on a 6 hr a day contract..i cut off every day.lol

opps forgot to say,he started having mondays and tuesdays off...ie bloody long weekend all the time.
they then moved him to rotating day off..so think about it..one week he has friday and saturday off next he has monday and tuesday off

so evry couple of weeks he gets friday saturday sunday monday and tuesday off.

GOOD WORK IF YOU CAN GET IT...